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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I have the same feeling when I'm around neighbourhoods with nice houses, real estate is crazy around here so I know the prices and so even anything remotely "nice" or "big" or "not touching the neighbours but they're kinda right there" is in the millions immediately. Can't help wondering who all these people are.

The answer of course is generational wealth, same with the boats.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The elites don't want you to know this but the boats at the marina are free you can take them home I have 458 boats.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 1 day ago

Yup, if you can get it running, it's yours.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A former boss told a story once that was super relatable.

It was about change and how it's not always necessary.... He went on about how one business changed their payment policies so that everything was done by some kind of payment card, they wouldn't accept cash/cheque with their new system.

He was basically bitching about having to pay by card for something he usually pays for by cheque.

The super relatable service that "pulled this on him"? It was a dry dock for his boat.

Yep. Super relatable bossman. I can barely pay my bills on what I'm paid, and you're being super relatable talking about how you store your boat in the winter. 🖕

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Last year, my CEO said if we finish the project on time, he'll buy a new truck and bring it around the office for everyone to check it out.

This would be his 20th truck he bought.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

So relatable!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jesus, that is even worse than a "let them eat cake" moment. This would be like Marie Antoinette eating cake in front of the starving peasants and then saying "be grateful for the opportunity to watch me eat cake!"

What happened to us? When did our spirits become so broken that the rich figuratively spit in our face and we thank them for it?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 4 points 1 day ago

Thank you for your moisture.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you want to check out a new truck that you don't own, just go to a dealership not looking like a bum and they might even let you drive it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't even need to not look like a bum, I've gone on a few test drives looking like a bum.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 5 points 1 day ago

As long as you don't smell like a bum.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm kinda one of them. Well my dad is. He's typical of the boat owners I've met over the years. Boomer, business owner, white. He bought the first boat with a buddy in their late 20s, cuz that's when he had enough disposable income after they could afford a house, a rental property, two kids, two cars, a dog and a golf course membership. They had a falling out and my dad bought out his buddy. Three or four boats later I look after the boat, and do all the maintenance. My dad's in his 70s, he can't take the boat out on his own anymore. We go fishing 5 or 6 times a year. Moorage is $6000 a year, fuel is $2000, insurance $3000, maintenance at least $2000. Maintenance would be 10x that if I didn't do most of the work myself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How much difference would it be if you compare it by renting a boat for those 5 or 6 times a year?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

We could do some absolutely amazing charters for the money we spend on the boat. It's something we have been talking about recently. The engines on the boat are 25 years old, if/when they die my dad wants to replace them to the tune of $40,000-$50,000. I'm trying to talk him into selling it and we plan a couple really nice fishing trips per year. I think one of the reasons he spends so much on it is that it's one of the only things we have in common. We only really spend time together on the boat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hey gob bluth lives on one of them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

At least until he makes a break for Portugal, down 'ol South America way.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Just had a look at used sailing boats in Norway and there are a fair number for under $10 000. Basically cheaper than a used car or camper. I'd have one if I had somewhere to keep it.

[–] sorghum 16 points 1 day ago

That's the real kicker. a place to moor your boat is often more expensive and even then maintenance costs will be a lot.

[–] MrsDoyle 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cheap to buy maybe, but expensive to moor and maintain. A friend who bought a small second-hand yacht said his new hobby was tearing up £20 notes in a cold shower.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

They say the two happiest days in a boat owners life are the day they buy their boat and the day they sell their boat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

IIRC the rule of thumb for boat costs, is that annual upkeep costs for a boat are roughly the purchase price of the boat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's wildly inaccurate, even as a rule of thumb. Upkeep (excluding storage, which varies widely by location) shouldn't be over 10% of the purchase price, unless the boat was really cheap or the boatyard doing the maintenance is crooked.

Talking US rates here, I have no experience overseas.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Fair I have zero experience owning a boat. However, if I bought a boat for $10K and my annual upkeep was only $1K I'd certainly be thrilled.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No one, take them, they're free.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Some people would be so relieved.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My family had a boat quite a few years back. Not a massive one, probably cost ten grand or something. People don't need to be absolutely loaded to own a boat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

When I was a kid, my aunt owned a small one. She’d bring it to my house where my dad and my uncle did repairs.

We were by no means a rich family. It was a two bedroom house with my parents and 3 kids.

I imagine the most expensive part of these are probably dock fees?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Believe it or not. There's as many reasons to own a boat as there are to own a house. And many more uses for a boat.

Weird thing. A boat is much more affordable than a house nowadays. Hell I'd live on a boat. That shit would be awesome.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Owning a boat

Pros:

  • You'll be able to survive the rising sea levels caused by global warming.

Cons:

  • You won't survive the super hurricanes caused by global warming.
[–] sugar_in_your_tea 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Solution: boat in the mountains.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The lake in Östersund is beautiful and are rumored to have its own monster if anyone wants to visit an awesome mountain lake

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[–] [email protected] 162 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

There are a lot of people in the world. Like a loooooot. Even if the % of non normies is only like 0.01% of the population that would easily explain those boats.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 days ago

This is the real answer and the reason online bubbles are so sad.

There's so many different way to live your life and we are atrofied around a couple of equally bad options.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some people don't even really sail them but live in them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Boats aren't even that expensive everywhere. In America they're priced as luxury objects for the richest of the rich from what I've heard. Sailing as a way of traveling is actually a kinda cheap and rough activity, like camper vans. Not very "rich" stuff at all. My grandparents had a 30 footer and it wasn't exactly luxurious, definitely camper van vibes. They'd sailed it all over around Europe though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (7 children)

A new camper van in the US can easily cost 6 figures.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

A city of 250,000 people could have 250 boats (that's enough for a marina or two) and it would be 0.01% of the population (the one percent of the one percent). That seems to not really be that crazy.

And if you consider that a small percentage of the boat population may have 2 or even 3 boats, than it gets even less weird.

I also think that if you live near water, people are generally at least a little more likely to get a boat instead of a nice car or bigger house or other luxury item.

Edit: I was off by an order of magnitude so it would be 0.1% not 0.01, however, I think the broader point is still valid.

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[–] ArbitraryValue 24 points 2 days ago (9 children)

They're not that expensive, at least not up-front. A guy I know bought a sailboat for a few thousand dollars, but the catch was that it was almost 50 years old and needed a lot of repairs. He saved money by doing the repairs himself, but the $400 per month slip fee was still too much for him eventually and he sold the boat.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

I picked up a fifty year old English built sailboat (Westerly Centaur) for all of $500. My local yacht club (more a working man's boat club than the posh social group that the name suggests). Prior owner fell up on hard times in the middle of a refit and stopped paying storage fees. I picked her up from the club after they placed a lien on it. Since the club is full of powerboat owners, none of them were interested in buying a sailboat.

I'm working to finish the refit, doing the majority of the work myself. Helps that the club fees about to about $1100 a year. $400 a month would be excessive if I weren't living on the boat full time... And refitting a boat while living on her sounds like a miserable experience.

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[–] Peppycito 114 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

The ideas that normies don't sail isn't true. I'm a normie and not rich and I started a sailing school because it's fun as hell. You don't need ^to ^own a boat to go sailing, you only need to know how.

[–] [email protected] 123 points 3 days ago (27 children)

Homie how tf are you sailing with no boat?

[–] [email protected] 100 points 3 days ago

That’s the power of your imagination!

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 days ago (25 children)

I have a friend who grew up on the coast and her family always sailed for fun.

When she got divorced she bought a sailboat and traveled for a bit in it. She then parked it at a marina and lived in it for so many years close to her kids and grandkids. She paid $100K for boat and her marina fees were $300/month. The boat was paid off with the divorce settlement.

The cheapest 1 bedroom apartment to rent nearby was $3500/month for less square footage than her boat. The cheapest small house was around $1,000,000 or around $6000/ month at the time. The homes around the marina were all priced at several million dollars.

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