I used to recycle, then I moved out on my own and found out I have to pay extra for it.
Should be paid for by these corporations, imo.
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I used to recycle, then I moved out on my own and found out I have to pay extra for it.
Should be paid for by these corporations, imo.
Every time I hear someone complain about a single tiny piece of plastic on the ground or someone uses slightly more than needed cling wrap, all I can think of is the couple of warehouses I used to work in a couple jobs ago.
Everything comes on pallets wrapped in about a dozen layers of cling wrap. 8-10ft tall pallets.
Every box gets opened, the items pulled out of a large plastic bag, each item wrapped in its own plastic bag.
Those items get put in other boxes, stacked on a different pallet, and wrapped in another dozen layers of plastic wrap.
The pallets get moved to a temporary spot for a few hours, then someone comes up and curs all the wrap off. Moves the boxes onto 4 other pallets, and each of those goes to a separate forklift driver who puts them on shelves.
When the item leaves, it's placed in plastic bags, then a box, then goes on a pallet that gers wrapped in a dozen layers of plastic wrap. Onto the truck for shipping elsewhere.
They have a truck that comes twice a day to replace a shipping container filled with plastic.
So much plastic, every day, all day, they only close for Christmas and 4th of July.
Am I still going to use anything but plastic wherever possible? Sure. Am I still going to pick up that piece of plastic and put it in the recycling bin? Absolutely.
Companies suck and will blame you for their shitty treatment just like every abuser does.
Keep in mind, plastic is everywhere partly because it's a petroleum byproduct.
You're exactly correct. I used to work in a manufacturing environment, and the amount of single-use plastic our production team used on a daily basis was staggering. I would estimate that company created as much plastic waste in one day as my household did in three months.
Consumer recycling or boycotts is only a drop in the bucket. Industry will have to shift away from single-use plastic if we're going to have any chance of saving ourselves from a future filled with generations worth of garbage.
Me rinsing the yogurt container before putting it in the recycling bin vs reading that a Belgian airline had 3000 empty flights just to keep airport slots
Yes, you can recycle plastic. Yes, its complex due to different types and grades of it. The only responsibility of the consumer is to put it into the right bin.
Yes, the corporations creating plastic products should do more. It doesn't have to be financially feasible to recycle it, It needs to be ecologically feasible and companies producing plastic products should pay the recycling toll.
We can also just burn it for energy like we do with tires... I recycle it like a good little cog in the machine because even if 5% of it gets back into product and not into my penis, is a win.
We need to make it financially feasible to properly recycle plastics by making it so damn expensive for companies to be wasteful with plastics. Among many other things, of course.
I doubt it will happen in our lifetimes, though.
The true long term solution is eliminating plastic. Back in the iron age there were glass bottles used to distribute milk and they were returned to be used again. Of course this system is more complicated and expensive than trucking in oil and turning it into single use containers so it'll never happen before the world is burned.
95% of microplastics going to your penis is considered a win?
It adds to the firmness.
If your erection lasts longer than 400 years please seek medical attention
I take 95 over 100 but if you want a plastic dick, have at it haha
I need to clean it to a concerning degree as well or risk being fined.
Also, where do those burned plastic fumes go after being burned also matter and I'm not confident they're not just being sent straight back to my lungs.
I don't have a problem with cleaning tbh. It's not required here but I just feel icky if I put a yogurt stained container into the bin.
With burning, it must be done at very high temperatures to ensure the resulting gasses get burned as well. Here I generally ment collect plastic and send it to a facility which has furnaces which can accommodate this kind of waste (like rubber tires).
One of the many other problems with recycling besides this tidbit, is the fact that most people don't even follow the first two instructions before recycling. Nobody reuses anything and nobody has reduced their consumption.
I'm always reminded of the iCarly episode about recycling.
what's the fix?
Cultural problems require cultural solutions.
Its simple. Make the plastics manufacturers pay for 100% of gathering, sorting and recycling of the hazardous waste they priduce, including plastics. That would make plastic containers expensive and we would come up with alternatives.
For the harm that's already been done? Time.
For the future? Regulation.
Regulation
that's extremely vague, what does the regulation do? Does it limit types of plastic? Uses of plastic? Production quantities? Waste allocations?
I'm not a plastic or environmental specialist, so I can't say. Surely you don't expect me to know all the answers, do you? Come on, now.
I'd think regulation would encompass all the things you mentioned, possibly more like subsidizing the use of non-plastics in industrial applications, for example.
Get rid of them. I was very young but existed in the 70's and the grocery store did not have all the plastics and there was plenty of convenience in foods. Its amazing what glass, paper, and aluminum can do. Glass was not even recycled usually. Had a deposit added to the cost and got it back when you returned it to the store where the person supplying the item took them back and they were washed and reused. It was why bottle caps were so prevalent.
glass was not even recycled usually
Yeah, we would reuse it (as the order implies in reduce, reuse, recycle). Recycling glass takes wayyyyyyy more energy than cleaning it. But the glass makers benefit more from access to cheap broken glass, so we get them lobbying so that glass recycling drop-off/containers almost force you to shatter every bottle you put into them...
Yeah put think about all the rain forest you saved by using plastic bags!
I know you're joking, but as far as aluminum is concerned, this is true. Which is why paper and glass are crucial.
Significant reduction in single use plastics, banning plastic use in certain products (even non-single-use), and a drastic increase in accountability for producers and consumers.
For capitalism: horizontal organizing
For plastic waste: plastic-eating fungi
Recycling is chemically possible at very high temperatures and pressures; it's just energy intensive and wasn't financially feasible until just about now, when solar energy can offer cheap energy.
We'll see how this will develop in the future. For the point of oil consumption (and therefore CO2 emission), plastics is only like 3% of oil consumption anyways (other 97% is fuel for vehicles). For the point of pollution, you don't need recycling, just collecting and combusting at high temperatures (to fully oxydize it and not leave any toxic fumes.
We recently built a plastic recycling facility here in sweden which recycles.. 12 types of plastic i think? several of which were basically not possible before.
so yeah it's definitely possible to recycle plastics, countries have just been refusing to actually take measures to make it happen.