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Hi all, glad I found this community from the 3D printing one.

I’m looking to build. 2.4 and was wondering if anyone has recommendations for a good kit on Europe.

I did some googling, but most results I find are US or way too expensive.

I’m hoping to spend around €1000 without printed parts if possible, but willing to spend more for good quality parts.

Thanks in advance!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just got my magicphoenix kit delivered. It has some nice addons that the default voron does not have: nevermore, tap, and canbus (no more cable chains to the toolhead). The packaging is nice, everything is placed in layers in the order that you build it.

I paid a little over €1000, and that includes some extras such as steel Y backers, a CNC tap, extra lights and DHL express shipping.

I had to pay about €230 extra in duties and tax (shipped to the Netherlands).

[–] neo2478 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing the experience! I was wondering about their kit, but indeed worried about the import tax.

That’s still a lot better then LDO though 3DJake for instance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since you haven't received any nibbles yet, I have two suggestions:

I don't know if you're familiar with the various kits, but LDO is considered to be a good option by many. Their website lists what vendors in a given region carry their kit and they list a few for Europe: https://docs.ldomotors.com/voron/LDO_Voron_Distributors

A cheaper, but still fairly well regarded, kit vendor is Formbot. They have an offical website (formbot3D.com), can be purchased on Ali Express, and a few third parties resell their kits. They have a Czech warehouse, so shipping shouldn't be too crazy?

Good luck!

[–] neo2478 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you so much for your input. This is exactly the info I was looking for.

The LDO kit is twice the price of the Formbot one. Any idea what I’d be giving up by going with that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No worries, happy to provide some info.

The general consensus on formbot is that it's good enough and the current (say past 6 months or so) set of components they're shipping are much improved over some of the components they were originally shipping. Formbot kits adhear to the stock Voron BOM pretty tightly.That said, wiring breaks in the cable chains seen somewhat common. Not that they're guaranteed not to happen with "better" wiring given all the continual flexing. This is one of the reasons why CAN toolheads and umbilicals are getting popular.

LDO kits have "better quality" components include and deviate from the stock BOM some. For example, they include a 4.3" touch screen. They also add on some popular mods (for example, fans for a nevermore filter, a toolhead PCB, etc) and some quality of life components like a heatserts tool. Both companies publish their current BOM, I would give both a dive and see which you prefer.

I live in the US and went with "option c" - a configurable kit from west3d.

[–] christiannils 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for asking this question, I also found it difficult to find kits in Europe.