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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I am lucky enough to live close to mackinaw island and it is as amazing as the picture says. For people who don’t know mackinaw island is an island in one of the lakes surrounding Michigan and it has banned vehicles (except for essential businesses like repairs). You’ve got a super walkable island, bikes everywhere, no one complaining about the no vehicles, horses everywhere too. It’s amazing and I wish I could have that in lower Michigan .

It’s actually so idealistic the houses for permanent residents on the island are ungodly expensive. Millionaires only get to live full time there.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Meh. Last time I visited it was just another overcrowded tourist trap full of generic souvenir stores and storefronts full of the same "local goods" found in every tourist attraction in the country, only instead of vehicle exhaust the main street smelled like manure and stale fry oil. The fort was neat, I guess, and the fudge was good (I mean, it's fudge), but overall it was pretty underwhelming.

Without all the tourists it would probably be a pretty nice place.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So it’s kind of a trip that really is up to you how it goes. I went expecting tourist stuff off the boat and quickly just got a bike and zoomed around the island enjoying nature. I came back to the main town when I was hungry and having a ton of options was nice. I’d also really prefer the horse smells to cars, horse poop and all. I grew up with farms around me all the time so cow poop smell during fertilizer season is real normal to me. Also picking up like 5 pounds of fudge before I left was nice lol. Disclaimer: I went outside of peak season so maybe it’s different during the huge wave of tourists.

[–] WiggleWag 5 points 1 year ago

I went during off season with a group of friends and had the exact same experience. There were times we didn't see anyone. Most people we saw were in the early mornings, those stopping by to shop and such.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That sounds ideal. I was with a family including small children, which meant we walked everywhere, and slowly. The kids easily grew bored with the historical stuff, which necessarily meant I couldn't really enjoy it myself. It was not ideal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Same. After moving to Michigan I saw Mackinac Island in every list of things to do in the state and so far it has been one of the most borings one

I love the UP and sleeping bear dunes (and the whole area around Traverse City) but the island just felt as a very generic tourist trap with horses and for some reason they think it's the only place to get fudge 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forgot trees. Lots of trees for lots of shade.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

So few! How about Belgorod in 80-ies:

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

went to Amsterdam a while back. the infrastructure there is dreamy. if I could choose where to live it'd be there

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Moved from South Africa to the Netherlands about 2 years ago, I have gotten so used to the infrastructure I have a mild panic attack any time i think about how on earth I would get from a hotel to a super market if I go back to visit Cape Capetown South Africa.

I have gone from desperately fighting that I need the best car and I should be able to speed all I want to being happy to just hop on my bike and cycle to work never caring if there will be parking.

This country may as well be a fever dream and some day soon I will wake up back home.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

please don't wake up I want the chance to live there at some point in my life before everything in your dream reality is erased from existence 😭

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

If you need to know anything about getting here feel free to message me :P

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Why the fuck would pepe be outside? Fake and gay

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Carless utopias are based, redpilled even, I would say

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

God damnit the youth are speaking in tongues again.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

*orange pilled.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Huh, I would've thought the pill would be green.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Whenever I see a pepe in the wild, I assume it's about something racist.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey, leave the mini alone. Of all the cars, that one's one of the best for cities

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of all the cancers, breast cancer has the best 5-year survival rate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

well yeah. I didn't say it's good. You know, lesser evil and all that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

All cars are cars. Even the smallest ones fuck up cities because it means somebody's building parking spaces for them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Hooded pepe is being very dangerous to other pedestrians by using his skateboard on the sidewalk instead of the wide bike path.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Perfect depiction of downtown Vancouver.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For people saying that this is unfair to drivers, If all of this was road there would be traffic too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago