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[–] jjagaimo 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

But not by much longer. People on the other side of the world or connected to satellites monitoring sunspots would notice pretty much immediately after the light ceases to reach the earth and would tell everyone else over the internet

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (4 children)

And even if you're not connected at the moment, the moon will go dark.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

yeah but everybody else would be sleeping so it would still take longer

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Most of us sleep at night and don't check our info-hose feeds until we wake up.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Only if you believe in magic box or “radio”

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago (6 children)

And now for the segue into a shower thought - so the first thing night side would notice is the Moon disappearing (if it's in the night sky), but after that, how long before effects begin to suggest something is seriously wrong on the day side. Something tells me it will be sooner than the morning.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'd assume after 8 minutes the people on the day side would notice and all media would blow up, so hopefully you'd be asleep and wouldn't have to worry :)

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

worry

I, for one, welcome the inexplicable annihilation of the sun

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Teacher: I meant the global we. So it would average out to 8 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Someone at day will inform sun is missing to the people on night

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What about gravity? I know I read something about this once, but is gravity also limited to the speed of light?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, we'll feel it after 8 minutes all right :-)

Gravity travels at the speed of light.

[–] BigDanishGuy 5 points 2 days ago

Does it? In my experience alcohol can delay gravity

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

From what I know, particles that have a mass greater than 0 move below the speed of light and can never reach it. Particles that have no mass (every force is transferred via particles) move at the speed of light. So there is no way to have anything that is faster than the speed of light, not even forces.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Yep, it is. We'd stay in our orbit of the sun for 8 minutes after it vanished too

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (16 children)

Wouldn't the planet rapidly start to cool? I think we'd be dead by morning

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The core is still hot. If we bury ourselves deep underground, there is a chance the humanity could survive for thousands of years without a sun. If not humanity, then some sort of life will survive long enough for future archeologists to find it millions of years later.

But don't quite me on this; I'm simply reciting from memory something I read in National Geographic or a similar publication 10-20 years ago. IDK how true this actually is.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Atmosphere would hold the heat for a bit, the real issues will begin with food shortages because the crops won't grow

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but how long is a bit? Also, without the gravity center of our solar system, how long would it take for all the planets to start drifting off into the void?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A bit - probably weeks to months. For the second question - 8 minutes for the Earth, since gravity propagates at the speed of light

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Expanding a little on the last part, Earth's orbital velocity is about 29.8 km/s so that's the speed at which we would suddenly be leaving the former location of the solar system in a direction that depends on what time of year it happened. Regardless of direction though, the escape velocity of the Milky Way around where we are is about 544 km/s so there's no way we'd be leaving the galaxy. On the other hand the plane of the galaxy is only about 6 degrees off from the galactic center at the moment, so if this happened at the right time of year (don't know when that is) we could launch somewhat towards the core. We would not however get very close to it because the sun's own orbital velocity is about 230 km/s so we'd still be in close to the same galactic orbit overall, just potentially a bit more eccentric.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Doesn't the earth itself provide a significant amount of heat from the core? I'm sure I read somewhere that for something like every 10 meters down you dig, the temperature raises by 1° celcius. So maybe we'd not notice a temperature drop so quickly?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The surface would eventually freeze over. But some life would almost definitely survive deep underground and underwater, near geothermal vents not unlike those that hosted the first lifeforms on Earth. And, maybe, in some billions or trillions of years, Earth would stray near another star system, get captured by its gravity and slowly thaw out, restarting the evolution of life.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In a sane world this would earn you a dunce hat. In this one it will earn you a position in the gubmint.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

i mean, if the moon is up there, the light first has to bounce off of the moon, and then back to earth, so yes, it would most definitely take longer...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the light first has to bounce off of the moon, and then back to earth

That's a second, more or less.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

that is still one second longer so.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I wonder if we would feel the sudden disappearance of the centripetal force of the sun's gravity.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

After 8 minutes

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (12 children)

http://scienceprimer.com/lunar-and-solar-tides

Yes, the tidal effect of the sun would disappear, and that would probably make the oceans all fucky suddenly (after an 8 minutes lag).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I believe we'd still be warm for those 8 minutes. We have an 8 minute grace period before having to do anything, then enough time to add sweaters faster than earth cools.

[–] Naz 6 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I was forced to calculate the black body temperature and radiation for the Earth, back in college by hand.

I decided for fun to zero out the sun from the equation to see what would happen.

My math came out to about -32°C average surface temperature.

Earth would become an ice planet.

I think you'd uh, need a bit more than a sweater in those conditions 😅

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

People live in those temperatures in places like remote Russia, right?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oymyakon

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It's sweaters all the way down. You have time to order from China shipped by boat before -32C happens. You're just being a "save the sun" hippy climate alarmist /s. Energy company shareholders would benefit from high demand, so saving the sun is just selfish of you :P

[–] Naz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm just imagining you shuffling out wearing six layers of different colored sweaters on the frozen tundra surface, lmao

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