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'You are making it hard for us!' Black Americans for Trump member rips president on CNN - Raw Story (www.rawstory.com)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

https://youtu.be/CQeezCdF4mk?si=68kfqEzIC0sAhSAv

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

To be fair, most black Americans voted for Harris. Trump voters are a tiny minority by comparison, so you can expect all sorts of unusual things from a small group like that.

Source: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/interactive-how-key-groups-of-americans-voted-in-2024-according-to-ap-votecast

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

@AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor He said he was gonna.

It's bad enough that T-ball voters wouldn't believe his critics when they warned what would happen. It's much worse that they didn't believe HIM when he said it.

What kind of fucking childish fantasy world are these morons living in? What kind of sense does it make? This kind of thinking doesn't even make childish sense.

[+] [email protected] -13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

The irony here is that Trump's coalition was so broad because these minority groups felt abandoned when Biden didn't fulfill his promises, but everyone here is kind of just pretending Harris would have actually done something for them. Whether it was inflation, cop cities, endless war, abortion repeal, or assisting in the perpetration of child genocide, Dems did a really shitty job.

And for those of you about to whine about 'both sides-ism', yes, both of you do lie and make extravagant promises during campaign time, and then always fail to deliver.

But you still vote Democrat and Republican anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When Democrats lose, there's endless navel-gazing and wondering what went wrong. If there was enough minority outreach, if there was enough non-minority outreach, what policies should've been passed or left on the cutting room floor.

When Republicans lose, they simply don't give a fuck. No one on the right was asking after Trump's loss in 2020 whether it was a mistake to let him run again or if he should've done an interview with Charlamagne the God. They just doubled down on Trump.

The point isn't to say Democrats should be more like Republicans. Republicans are a loony cult, no one should be like them. The point is that there is an extreme and insane double standard, and anyone who acts like Democrats are the ones who need to be harsher on their candidates is hard to take seriously.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

are the ones who need to be harsher on their candidates is hard to take seriously.

LOL, I remember in Biden's State of the Union when he ridiculed the Defund the Police movement, and it became crystal clear that you were voting fascist no matter who you picked.

Fuck yes Dems should be more discerning, but it's not like you the voter have any power. It's the rich picking your candidates for you too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe you will should've picked a more marketable slogan than the one that makes it sound like you wanna just let criminals win. There's a difference between a fascist and a gutless politician. Trump is the former, Biden is the latter. What leftists need is the ability to recognize shades of grey and the notion of getting somewhere step by step instead of trying to convince people to leap all the way down the stairs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

There’s a difference between a fascist and a gutless politician. Trump is the former, Biden is the latter.

The only difference is one says mean things and one doesn't. That's it. Biden supported cop cities (and by extension, murderous cops), didn't do anything to actually make life livable in America for most (and in fact, wanted to make banks report lower balances so they could tax gig workers harder), and enthusiastically supplied WMD's to a genocide. That to me is pretty darn fascist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Sure, let's say "things didn't improve much" and "they're actively trying to kill us" is the very exact same thing, and justify taking sides with the later.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So both you and Trump still blame Biden

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I blame Biden for his record, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah and I guess you vote third party or not at all which also is a vote for trump. Or maybe you're not even in the US. Pie in the sky idealism is great but unless you're organizing and changing the system BEFORE a generationally crucial election, and you voted third party (aka for trump) then you are just as naive and you'll suffer along with everyone else for your ridiculous unrealistic ideals.

Harris would not have doomed us all to climate change or borked the whole fed government (the consequences of which we're already seeing and will only get much worse in the coming months) and definitely wouldn't have blamed a plane crash on all non-white people with straight up Jim Crow era messaging. Your comment is disingenuous or severely misinformed.

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