Unless they open source their models, they should be forced to rename to ClosedAI. It's literally false advertising otherwise.
this post was submitted on 01 Feb 2025
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OpenVMS, now there's a name I've not heard in a long time, a long time...
Lol. They didn't even publish weights since GPT2. And weights are not enough for open source.
In other news, shit spewing liar spews more shit and lies to get more of your money.
He thinks they're on the wrong side of history my ass. He doesn't care. He never cared. He will never care. The open source you and I know is completely different than the "open source" this chucklefuck is probably selling you on. "We need to figure out a different open source strategy" should be the biggest indicator here. Take everything he and his circlejerk says with the biggest fucking mountain of salt you can dream of and double it.
Yeah totally agree. He has proven to be one of the slimiest people on the scene. I mean, he is pretty much throwing his colleagues under the bus in this statement too lol
Altman is a parasite and always has been
It is okay we are good. Already more than ~~3500~~ 9900 have forked DeepSeek.
Wild that it almost tripled in the 48 hours since I last checked.
Am i the only one who forks shit ill never touch?
No you are not. I do it too.
Personal projects aside, I work for a major industrial technology company in the US East Coast and we are looking into it just in case. It may not be what we want but we are definitely trying it out.
Fuck that guy.
Sigh... If I need to. unzips pants
There's a strong chance he'd enjoy it; so maybe it's best not to just to spite him. Lol
It grinds my gears that someone who can't be fucked with capitalization has that much money and power. I get that using the shift key occasionally is an inconvenience but we do it to help the readers. A conversation is give and take.
Man... I initially read that as
can't be fucked with capitalism
and I was thoroughly confused.
Like all techbros it is an affectation to cultivate a certain sort of appearance. A type of mad faux intellectualism.
You literally have to be a tryhard to do all lowecase on a phone, for example.
i've disabled auto caps on my phone :o
i generally type in all lower case because it appears more casual, at least to me. it's not exactly a rule i follow, so it's never consistent, and i don't mind capitalizing abbreviations and names and such anyways.
Same, but I generally only use all lowercase in IMs/other short form text media (so, not here), and when I’m writing German I do capitalize nouns. I’ve always had auto capitalization off since before I started this too since I’m used to pressing shift on the computer.
It seemed to be a trend amongst younger people who would disable auto capitalisation.
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This is the Reason why Germans are angry all the Time.
Backing up my Saved page from reddit, I found that Dall-E post from four years ago. It is buck-wild how far all of this has come... in image generators. Text still fundamentally sucks because people keep trying to use an improv partner as an oracle. And its artistic uses are of low value because text was always dead easy to crank out.
And all I though to comment was "generate nude Tayne," about four hours before the American coup.
Can someone ELI5? He's admitting it was never truly open? Or they were wrong for thinking open was good at all?
OpenAI was started to be as open as possible, and to prevent the kinds of capitalism-driven Closed-AI development that they have now themselves become.
My personal opinion is that closed AI systems are only good if the owners are trustworthy. And in the long-run, no single owner can be trusted. There are risks with letting everyone copy and customize AI, however the worse danger is that the power gets too centralized with one single company.
OpenAI was started to be as open as possible, and to prevent the kinds of capitalism-driven Closed-AI development that they have now themselves become.
No, that was what OpenAI said its goals originally were. They were lying. They always intended for it to become a capitalist venture. Anyone who listens to Tech Won’t Save Us or This Machine Kills or Team Human have known all along. Or anyone like me who’s been in the industry for thirty years.
I too have been in the industry for many a decade and I heartily concur. I do have many colleagues though that also have been in for many years, and those are still dedicated believers. Maybe their critical thinking has been eaten away by all the lead in soldering tin?
That reminds me, I was temporarily blinded once from breathing in too much soldering fume.
This explains so much
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Ah interesting - cheers for sharing!
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He's saying they're wrong for not currently being open.
No, he said they "need to figure out a different open source strategy". That is completely different.
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We have plenty of alternatives like Mistral, Gemini, qwen, deepseek...
But none of them is fully open source that you know data they've been trained with, right? Maybe only K2 ?
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Well, if openai open sources all their models, what value is there left that is unique to openai? Training data? But that is only valuable if they invent a better way to make it into an "AI".
Hosting a model of that size requires ~800GB of VRAM. Even if they release their models, it wouldn't make them obsolete since most people and many companies couldn't host it either way.
Anyone can now provide that service. Why pay OpenAI when you can pay a different service who is cheaper or provides a service more aligned with your needs or ethics or legal requirements?
Anyone that has 300.000$ per instance, the know-how to set it up, the means to support it and can outbid OpenAI, yes.
I don't see that happening on a large scale, just like I don't see tons of DeepSeek instances being hosted cheaper than the original any time soon.
If they really are afraid of that they can always license it in a way that forbids reselling.
Most companies that have open source products make their money in providing support for it to other companies, so theoretically OpenAI could do that (in fact top level AI developers are pretty rare so they could charge way more than other companies do for consulting) but that wouldn't be a hundreds-of-billions-of-dollars business plan because it's much too sensible.
OpenAI started as a non-profit, so it could be 100% open and still be truthful to it's original intentions.
Sorry for confusion guys - here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ieonxv/comment/maa0dcx/
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