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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now this is gonna sound crazy. But if you actively improve the material conditions of people's lives I'm pretty sure they'll vote for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Biden did and he got the boot, along with all the Democrats. Trump didn't and he won the popular vote.

I don't think doing good matters.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I think doing tangible good matters.

You can't give tens of billions to green energy companies and expect any actual workers in the country to get richer.

If he raised the min wage then poor people would tangibly benefit instead of the DNCs strategy of shouting down poor people when they say they can't afford human needs

[–] [email protected] -2 points 15 hours ago

Unfortunately, POTUS can't unilaterally increase minimum wage, which would require legislative action... and the tangible good he (and Democrats more generally) actually did do for people, like student loan forgiveness, abortion access, college admission rules that helped disadvantaged students, gun control, and the ability for federal agencies to hire experts in a field to help make intelligent decisions were all thrown out in the courts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Doing good definitely matters. Getting the message out that you did so apparently matters more.

What we are seeing matters most though, is showing the other side did BAD.

[–] GrumpyDuckling 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

showing the other side did bad

Thst's been the dems whole platform for 8 years. "At least we're not them." Nobody wanted Biden, or Harris, we got stuck with those assholes and voted for them out of desperation. I know exactly what kind of people run the Democratic party. A bunch of old people who think they know everyhing just clinging to their positions. A bunch of old Karens.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Agree that "at least we aren't them" doesn't work. It needs to be more "Republican Matt Gaetz responds to allegations of PEDOPHILIA" and "Home insurance continues to rise under the gross MISMANAGEMENT of Ron Desantis - Floridians fleeing state" and maybe "Many are questioning if Republicans even know HOW to govern, as reliance on money from Democrat run states increases".

You know, flashy clickbait headlines for the lazy (average) American voter. Republicans have shown even a stupid lie (they are eating the dogs!) told enough times convinces people.

[–] GrumpyDuckling 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We already know all of that and the dems still sat there with their dick in their hands because the kinds of people that run the party are incompentent and worry too much about pleasing the coalition of misfits that are actually involved in the party. They won't ever let sensible people climb the ranks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Yeah that's true. Right now our two big leaders amount to the school bully and maybe an average student. It is a lot to ask the average student to stand up the school bully, even if it's a lot of other students asking him.

We need real leaders. We need to volunteer ourselves so that the best of us can help lead the country. We keep asking for better but none of us want to step up.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People want change, people voted for change, as terrible of a change it is. That's it, you don't have to think further than that. Preserving the status quo at all costs is what got them in this situation...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed.

However. That's a little to vague. You'll need to specify a little more there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

When the Democrats prove that they exist to force the poors down as wealth inequality increases, then the poors won't see their lives improve under democratic leadership.

We need a leftist party

[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Here's a hint:

When Harris was out giving speeches heavy on economic populism, polls consistently showed her in the lead.

When, at the behest of the donor class and their stooges in the DNC, she switched away from populism and to standard, vacuous neo-liberalism, that lead vanished, never to return.

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There's an important question though. Does the DNC actually want to win?

I honestly don't think they do. I think they've found a comfortable and profitable role as the controlled opposition, all of this hand-wringing is just for show, and what they're in fact going to do is just install another bunch of neo-liberal establishment hacks and go right back to their standard tactics of condemning the republicans while making excuses for failing to actually do anything about them, and promising that if only we give them more money, they'll surely stand up for us after the next election.

I'd love for them to prove me wrong. I would've loved that anyway, but it's especially significant now, because the US is circling the bowl, and the time for meaningfully promising anything is rapidly running out. This isn't just a moment when the DNC needs to step up to reclaim some integrity - they need to step up to do their part to save the US from the destruction the Trumpists are hellbent on bringing.

Will they?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm with you, they seem to really like being the underdogs and it seems to work out well for them from a fundraising perspective. It definitely feels like they're angling to just barely lose.

I hope they eventually prove me wrong too, but it does feel like when they do well enough to win it's mostly an unfortunate accident in their eyes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I too would LOVE to be proven wrong but it is seems unlikely.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Have they thought about electing a human being instead of a chair? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

This just reminds me of how Clint Eastwood talked to "Obama" via an empty chair.

I think the empty chair would be an improvement at this point.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately all discussions have been tabled.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Furniture would be an improvement.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Haha, I'll see you all in 2028 after 4 years of no change and primary rigging again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you're in there, fighting for your changes?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Things remain as you like them, but now it's mlg's fault for not singlehandedly fixing it.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 day ago (4 children)

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS BE PROGRESSIVE AND DONT FUCK WITH A PRIMARY

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the dnc should just pay trump to run as a dem in 2028

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is genius had it been 2016, but now his price is in the 10s of billions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

accounted for with step 3 thank you for your input

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

IMO Hakeem Jeffries should also be replaced as minority leader / speaker. He’s about as exciting as a wet dish rag. Great that he’s on message but it’s so transparently measured and calculated. Exactly why Pelosi groomed him to take over, I’m guessing. Just an absolute milk sandwich of a man.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Go on the fucking attack. Call out every Republican bullshit comment and flat out call them liars and embarass them in front of anyone they can.

Follow it up with lobbing accusations of their on non-stop

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hear that overturned police cars can be "built" into effective barricades.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So . . you're for the DNC . . overturning police cars.

Sure, why not. Someone write that down.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I didn't specify the DNC, but sure.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Yes, but make sure they know their job. It is to select candidates, without a primary, and make sure those candidates hold fundraising events for the elite class and do nothing for the low and working class. 🤦‍♂️

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