Please don't, at least not without other states. Cali leaving would hand the Republicans even greater control of the House and screw over the other blue states.
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California leaving would absolutely start a chain reaction of other states.
If California successfully left (trying that didn't work so well that one time), then I see Oregon and Washington joining. That bloc probably wouldn't spread further east, though. Too many red states in the way. Texas would probably also secede because honestly I think the only thing keeping them from doing so now is the precedent that it's not possible. New York would talk about it, but it wouldn't pass. Minnesota might talk to Canada about joining them, but they probably like their guns too much to actually go through with it.
Minnesotans would do just about anything to join Canada. We're very much blue even in our rural areas
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Yeah come with us!
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Yeah, to me this seems like another variation of that movement that's constantly trying to get California to pass a bill to split it into multiple states. Which, wouldn't you know, just happens to favor the Republicans!
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This was in that KGB plan to divide America, after dividing NATO. Also in the plan: dividing UK and Europe and then dividing Germany and France within Europe. And every single one of those is being worked on or has already worked. Do not fall for it
Thank you! Finding out about Foundations of Geopolitics back in 2015 or so has been incredibly detrimental to my mental health. People roll their eyes when you bring it up and you just have to watch it slowly unfold exactly to their plan, year after year.
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How is this uplifting?!
Because we you don't get our money unless our votes counts. We have put so much into the entire country and still get shit on from every other state.
Please call the new country New California Republic
Living under the second Trump administration almost makes you wish for nuclear winter.
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Do NOT fall for this shit, they've tried it before. This makes america an easy red majority and that's the entire point of it. We're in this together and not going anywhere
I think when you're on a ship being sailed suicidally into a storm, arguing they some passengers shouldn't jump into life boats to escape just because it will only leave the crazy people onboard and "we're in this together" isn't particularly compelling.
Like, surely that's the point? That state finds it's people, their way of life and values to have diverged so far from the government and overall culture of the nation they're currently teamed up with, so they choose to end their union and become a free nation state again, as is their right.
The alternative to this peaceful split into two countries that can now run themselves the way they want to, would be one side attempting to impose their way of life on the other, to the point of massive crushing oppression or eventual civil war to see which side will dominate and force the other to convert to their ways.
Surely when we consider the options, peacefully going their separate ways when they're no longer compatible with each other's societies and values seems the best result, no?
The federal debt will balloon without blue states paying into the coffers, though? Quality of life will take a shit
CA here. I’ve had two good friends permanently leave the US in the last few years because fuck this place. I’m not sure we care anymore out here what happens to “America,” especially compared to what we could become without being dragged down by it. If this country is really going to go insane and fascist, then it needs to be weakened to stop the damage, and subtracting California from it would do that faster than anything else possibly could.
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Terrible name. At least use Califexit if you don't want to go with the obvious Calyeet or Califorgetaboutitimoutofhere.
I'm partial to CaliFuckThis.
Supercalifuckthisshitandexileallemotions
WA, OR, CA, MN, WI, IL, ME, MA, RI, CT, VT, NY, NJ, PA, MD, CO, NM, I would be okay with coming to Canada. The rest of yous? Idk.
You DON'T want PA. They were one of the swing states that handed Trump the WH. They're also the fattest state in the Union
I'm a Minnesotan, currently at my kids hockey tournament. This is an acceptable scenario.
I don’t live there so I’m maybe out of the loop here, but why not Michigan?
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If you never saw the 2024 movie Civil War, now is an excellent time.
Somehow Texas and California were on the same side which made the whole movie unbelievable.
I looked it up after the movie and it was done on purpose. The goal of the movie was to show how bad the glorification of this kind of photography and events can be. The creators of the movie thought it would have more impact and get the point across better if it was on US soil. Seeing a downed helicopter in a place you’d normally be shopping for instance. They made texas and california join together, because they didn’t want audiences bogged down trying to figure out who is blue, red, purple, right or wrong.
Makes sense considering they were both Mexico.
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I wonder what kind of performance bonus the republicans earn from putin if they can pressure the world's 5th largest economy to leave the US.
Okay... So I need to go be homeless in California before it splits, I reckon. Get a Cali ID. I am not, I repeat, absolutely fucking not, getting stuck in this shit hole with its new republican supermajority after all the blue states leave. I don't even like the democratic party, but I will be fucking fucked if I stay in the United Christofascist States of Trumperica
Thankfully, they'll never let anyone leave. Ever.
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Yeah I'm getting pretty tired of my state contributing far more in federal taxes than any other state just to help bailout ignorant, oppressive, poor red states.
We've got the money, the tech, the military installations, and the agriculture. Let's do our own thing. Or better yet, bring the whole West Coast in on it.
Dividing the USA is not uplifting news. This is terrible for everyone.
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As a New England resident: Canada, if you're listening, make us your new province.
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Never going to happen. Too many red welfare states leech off the money flowing out of California. We are propping up a ridiculous number of them. Not to mention the fact that architecture from CA puts a lot of food on the table for many stars West of the Mississippi.
Plus, it would set a very dangerous precedent for other states.
On the flip side, with California gone, the GOP would basically never lose the House, the Senate, and the Presidency again.
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If we could figure how to make an east coast - west coast exit into a country that would be ideal.
Just have it run up the coast, include Canada, then back down...
As a Canadian, I'd be OK with that. We'd have to vote for a Prime President or President Minister.
Would make for a good opportunity to improve the election process of both countries. Though not as badly as the US, I hear Canada also struggles with first-past-the-post voting.
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Please call it the Pacific States of America
It was not legal and unconstitutional when the CAS seceded, and it will be illegal and unconstitutional if California attempts to do the same.
Wait till you hear what these thirteen cheeky colonies did back in the day.
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Why not just change the law? Seems to be an option whenever other people want to.
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It would be great if both the east and west coasts join Canada. Then there's a new leader of the western hemisphere to replace the US, better and more modern.
Probably gotta swap Alberta here, but close enough:
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