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There’s been some debate over the last year or so regarding Bluesky and how decentralized it really is. There has also been a growing fear that “enshittification is inevitable.” Or, worse, that an “evil billionaire” might take it over and ruin it the way other platforms have been ruined.

But I think it’s important to understand that Bluesky has, effectively, created a technological poison pill: by building on an open protocol, ATprotocol, the system itself can be rebuilt outside of Bluesky, but in a way where everyone can continue to communicate, and that creates incredible incentives that undermine any evil billionaires, and would actually punish Bluesky (or anyone else!) should they try to enshittify.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 49 minutes ago

Conflict of interest: Mike Masnick is on the Bluesky Board

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Bluesky has created the illusion of what we already have with the Fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Multiple incompatible flawed competing standards are essential for a success of any technology

[–] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago

Not sure it's essential, but it seems the norm.

Anything that helps breaks the twit's influence is useful for now, though.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

But I think it’s important to understand that Bluesky has, effectively, created a technological poison pill: by building on an open protocol, ATprotocol, the system itself can be rebuilt outside of Bluesky, but in a way where everyone can continue to communicate, and that creates incredible incentives that undermine any evil billionaires, and would actually punish Bluesky (or anyone else!) should they try to enshittify.

Bruh, ActivityPub is right there, and we already have places where people can communicate. And it's already built in such a way that anyone can make use of it. Currently not so with ATprotocol.

When BlueSky has interoperable servers that anyone can spin up, then this conversation is worth having, but if the protocol at all requires "the next person" to have tons of investment capital to get things running again, it's still just a billionaire-buyout away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 minutes ago

And unfortunately bluesky isn't as decentralized as they may appear

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

That doesn't really work when the overwhelming majority of the users are on bsky.social anyway. Like sure I have my own PDS so technically my data is mine, but if they decide to turn off ATproto it barely will have any effect at all for most Bluesky users.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

It's arguably already happening considering they've taken money from Blockchain Capital.

I mean, even Jack Dorsey left because he thought it wasn't actually decentralized, and that guys a stupid asshole in it for all the wrong reasons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Wishful thinking. Look at Wikipedia. Open everything, total content dumps available as single tarballs, "free the communities" as one of their founding tenets when it started, lots of spammy mirror sites, yet everyone is still stuck there. Main reason is the stupendous search rank makes everyone go there. This is one reason I decided to block search engines from my personal site. It's ok, no one reads it either way.