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this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2025
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Someone likes the taste of corporate boot?
Reddit or Lemmy, mods gotta be bunch of cringy fuckwits.
Fucking hosers.
You're right, they're PTB.
Fucking hosers.
There's a word I haven't heard in a long time!
Coo, loo, coo, coo, coo, coo, coo, coo!
Broadly, .world is fairly obviously mirroring the sycophantic policies of X/Meta/Reddit.
The only real question I have is whether it's primarily rooted in ambition or fear - whether the admin are actively trying to be admitted to the ranks of Trump-approved™ social media, or if they're just afraid that if they don't kowtow, they're going to get TikToked.
That's because they are wanting to federate with Meta
Ah... yes.
It became obvious to me that something was up with the announcement a while back that said, once you sifted through all the diversionary puffery and bullshit, that .world was going to follow Vichy Twitter's and Meta's lead and allow hate speech and misinformation.
But I assumed they were doing that for the same reason Meta is - to suck up to Big Baby Fascist. I hadn't considered that they were doing it to suck up to Meta.
Now it all makes sense.
Yeah I can't tell if some mods on . world are natural bootlickers and actually LARP this shit for free OR they straight up threat actors
My take is I’m glad you already aren’t on their instance because they gotta go :)
People really need to lean into DEcentralization and make accounts on smaller servers IMHO
Smaller admins don't bother modding unless you are a proper threat actor or doing illegal shot.
High traffic subs have a lot of censorship sadly.
And this censorship is literally text book from corporate social media. Bootlickers are the biggest enemies of working class because then daddy owner ain't even getting his hands dirty lol
AskLemmy mod team would appear to be PTB
I think that might be libel. I doubt that there is anything "blind" about your alignment with Luigi Mangione.
Needs clarification.
Maybe they just don't want people to promote murder as a form of political action, although the log is not clear.
That would be a pretty common position, probably aligned with the rules of most communities on Lemmy and can be completely unrelated to protecting corporations, the system or whatever other people are jumping to.
Health care executives sentence millions to death because saving their lives isn't profitable. If you kill someone attempting to take your life, that's self-defence.
I am on board with promoting self-defence as a form of political action.
In my country, physical self-defense is relevant to the moment of the aggression and is required to be proportional (which is complicated, I concede). If you later go look for the aggressor to exercise your right to "self-defense", that's vengeance and personal justice, not self-defense anymore. This is usually forbidden in democratic countries because it could have a lot of negative effects of society.
Overall, unless the laws and logic are very different in the USA, I don't think this could be considered self-defense. This is also not going to stop the abuse by insurance companies since thousands of people can replace this guy, so it's more about sending a message, isn't it. What do we usually call the method of killing people to send a political message?
How is my opinion on his actions "promoting murderx?
Has has not even been convicted of anything and you are going off what teevee told you for this analysis.
Same response as the one you already received by someone else for the same question, so I didn't add to it. https://jlai.lu/post/14533062/12060318
When Nazi's come, don't ever fight back because you would cause violence, mmmkhay
Sure buddy 🤡
The fact that the idea of defending yourself is being censored and bootlickers cheer this on is prolly the reason why owner class feels this brazen to systemcally kill peasants for profit.
"Moment of aggression" is an interesting point, especially when the aggression is drawn out over a period of months. If someone puts an explosive collar on your neck, then every moment until the collar is disarmed should count as a moment of aggression.
I will accept that the attack was not proportional, but not in the way you think. The initial aggression took thousands of lives, drawn out over an agonising amount of time. Luigi took one, and it was quick.
The message was supposed to change how healthcare is dealt with, and to save lives as an extension. The hope is that one of the thousand will accept the message and change their behaviour to protect themself. It's the same as the hope that a punch will make your attacker stop punching you. That punch is self-defence, even if it doesn't work.
Final note? The fact that "stop letting innocents die for profit" is political says a LOT.
The point of the "moment of aggression" is that there is no way any democratically legitimated power can protect you immediately in the moment of a physical aggression. Unlike an unfair insurance system where you should be able to get legal protection and sue to claim your rights. If the system doesn't protect one's rights enough, then one should work on improving it through getting involved in the democratic process. Are they voting? Are they demonstrating? Have they done everything they could to support the politicians that defend their values, or risked themselves to carry the burden of becoming one? Killing people is just going to illegitimate your opinion, and also probably negatively impact the other people who share it too.
Any intervention on society, with a goal to impact it, is political, I don't know what surprises you there.
You implied I "promoted murder" which requires you to go through all these wall of text.
I merely expressed support for a public figure.
I don't see people get bent out of shpe over people supporting other "murders"
We don't even know yet if Luigi even did it...
The entire censorship is is done based on implied intent that mods had to make up to censor speech.
You can your unpopular opinion without being censored, why can't I have my for once popular opinion without being censored?
Funny how this system still operates on decentralized social media?
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That's a less popular but more rational take on this matter than just calling them boot lickers and sycophants.
I understand other people's takes, but to me that's just jumping to conclusions.
Did you read my comment as promoting murder?
What does this even mean?
Also, but even if we accept your theory as true, ain't there is a lot of selective enforcement with respect to "murder promotion"
Why does Brian Thompson get this special treatment on fedi of all places?
The chain of conversation was:
- Original post: "How do you seriously fight fascism and don't say just vote?"
- Top-level comment by Chivera, removed: "Luigi"
- Your reply: "Did nothing wrong"
There is absolutely no reasonable way to interpret that other than "Luigi Mangione did nothing wrong when he killed Brian Thompson, and that's how you seriously fight fascism". I'm not saying you're wrong, but I am saying own your words rather than doing this bullshit dance around them
Thank you for answering him on my behalf. This expresses exactly what I thought.
Luigi Mangione did nothing wrong when he killed Brian Thompson, and that's how you seriously fight fascism
How is this "to promote murder"?
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