this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Banned sunzu2 from the community Ask Lemmy reason: Will not tolerate blind alignment with Luigi Mangione expires: in 3 days

Alright good folk, what's your take here.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I just got banned for this as well. lol I only got banned after calling out their mods bad source too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No, you got banned for the same reason everyone else did, and provenly so as can be seen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's what they said: they got banned for the same reason after calling the bad mods out

Learn to read

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Confirming you are advocating for violent action after baiting people to defend it =/= calling the bad mods out

There is a difference between these two things, something I know from not being one of the people who have trouble reading.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Confirming you are advocating for violent action

You keep saying this but that's not what happened

You want it to be this so you can justify arbitrary modding decisions because mods disagree with public sentiment on Luigi and Israel so they censor it

Lemmy world is where luigi is committing a genocide and Israel did nothing wrong

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The proofs and even what some of your arguments imply say otherwise. It's redundant to clarify since I'm not from the World instance, but it would be putting words in my mouth to say "luigi is committing a genocide and Israel did nothing wrong", as I simply condemn him for a murder he had almost every reason not to resort to especially considering his motives (and I condemn both sides of the Israel war going on right now). If one person stands by what Luigi did, it is wrong; if a hundred people do, it's still wrong; if a million people do, it's still wrong.

[–] UniversalMonk 2 points 3 hours ago

I agree with you!! He's a murderer, regardless of who he killed, he's a murderer. He deserves to spend rest of his life in prison.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's your opinion... Thank you for sharing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If sensibility is an opinion to you, that explains a few things. Of note, the discussion where much of this took place in the first place was one about Elon Musk supposedly giving the Nazi salute and how it's alarming to consider it protected under free speech. Saying it's bad to say "death to all [insert random minority here]" isn't an opinion, is it? Practically speaking, this is what you both (and the Luigi fandom as a whole) are doing in all but name.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Practically speaking, this is what you both (and the Luigi fandom as a whole) are doing in all but name.

No, you are attempting to smear the public opinion on the issue. You are constructing narratives to justify the censorship decisions.

Discussions around Thompson's death being censored across all social media, do you expect anyone to respect this behavior?

You keep harping how any favourable comments re suspected assailant is is "promoting murder" it is "law breaking behaviour" but it is just a discussion and memeing. And Lemmy world is censoring. This is not modding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

any favourable comments

No, just the ones that float around the concept of eradication. Neither am I inventing narratives when it's a deconstruction of things spoken by all of you verbatim, which I have the power to show everyone said.

You could have a positive view of one or a negative view of the other for certain reasons, as many people have. It's specifically climbing the Allport Scale which is the issue. It is a matter of law, especially when services of many national backgrounds are in the question, and especially considering how it's unfolding, there's a small bit of irony in alluding to "worldwide censorship" and implying it has arisen regardless of respect.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 day ago (2 children)

.world mods are still frantically pissing into the wind, I see.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago

I lost all faith in .world after they banned piracy communities; unbanned them after user unrest; and when the hype died down, silently rebanned them all.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Their behaviour is becoming problematic as they appear to be modding to miriror reddit.

So we left reddit to be still modded by them?

Granted due to beauty of fedi, we can still have these discussions here but they are still winning.

Luigi talk suppression is brazen, reddit gets cleaned out from it with the most mild takes being left.

At the end of the day, a normal person won't have access to these ideas because algos and mods won't let them. You don't know life is simulation until you try to step out of it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Start a new Ask Lemmy on a different instance and announce it. I’ll subscribe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Even the [email protected] mods have alts on other instances and aren't that positive against LW.

Edit: hm, reading this thread they seem to be powertripping somehow, that's sad

For casual questions, there is [email protected], but for more serious topics, I don't know.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

The funny thing about this is, when the .world mods were being insanely prohibitive of any speech involving Luigi, and censoring discussion if the event when it happened, the excuse they used was since the server is in a European country, it's illegal to foster speech that "promotes violence."

I changed my server then, as did many others, after witnessing the censorship, but it's fun to see now the mask-off answer of just not liking Luigi.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Won't tolerate blind alignment with Luigi? Yikes that's a lot of work, they're going to have to ban like 1/3 of the entire fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know right? It's utter madness. And they already tried and failed to clamp down the support for Luigi on LW before this. It's got, "this is gonna backfire" written all over it.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago

Alright good folk, what’s your take here.

PTB

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (8 children)

They’ve effectively silenced me. I can’t keep track of where I can say pro-Luigi things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Luigi Mangione did nothing wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

You god damn right!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Luigi Mangione is a champion of the people.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

checks modlog wow you sure do talk about assassination a lot. no judgement, just.. impressed i guess

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We tried the nonviolent stuff…

🤷‍♀️

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

PTB all the way matey. Who gets to define which advocacy is "wrongful"? Are they going to start banning people for advocating for the oil and gas industry as well? That's arguably much more "wrongful".

Also, there's no mention of "wrongful advocacy" in either the community sidebar or the LW TOS afaik, so presumably it's just a made up rule.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago

PTB. Luigi Mangione did nothing wrong

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

Ugh, this kind of "moderation" is almost making me want to take my instance and set up communities that are structured with different rules and guidelines that would mostly allow it, because frankly, fuck censorship of anything that's not hate or illegal speech.

Then I realize that'd be a job I'm not being paid for and I don't.

Sigh.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

PTB. other considerations aside, like 2/3rds of the internet has a politics crush on Luigi. at some point mods gotta just accept that Luigi jokes are gonna be everywhere, like 9/11 jokes. and honestly overall, censorship of jokes makes them more funny and therefore more long lasting. barbara streisand type beat.

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