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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Man, these people need to sit down and have a proper talk. It's embarassing that they've been fighting in public for so long. A lot of that sounds like simple communication breakdowns, even.

Every goddamn time there's a new step in these conflicts, my opinion of everyone involved tumbles.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If anyone wants to neatly summarize this drama in a few sentences, that would be much appreciated. I don't have time to read this essay or watch multiple 45 minute videos on GN.

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[–] poke 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Just finished reading. In summary: everyone loses here.

Linus made some silly but understandable mistakes, had some very poor word choices in private communications, and got Steve on the defensive by publicly mentioning he didn't want to sue but implied he could. LMG is also (in the youtube world) a large company and is likely always working on process improvements, and the improvement Steve seems to want to happen that they are definitely lacking in, is to update old content with corrections or omissions.

Steve poorly or never communicated what he thought were satisfactory resolutions to past comments or incidents and is upset that those resolutions didn't happen, and is only escalating the situation further by softly threatening legal action, while also hinting that they have way more evidence they are just conveniently leaving out despite their current evidence being mostly empty (specifically receipts 1 and 2).

They both run very different channels with different focuses and staff sizes and production values, and each has made mistakes. None of this spat should have been public, but it seems both parties are just bad at communicating with one another and it has only escalated due to LMG actually publicly responding to public allegations by GN.

If I had to declare a winner so far, Steve is looking worse for wear to me given the poor examples provided as receipts and the continued threat of legal escalation, but again - everyone loses here. Everyone looks worse and this should have been handled privately. Maybe LMG should appoint someone other than Linus to handle fellow media contacts, because it doesn't seem like he's the best for that job.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

After reading that article I can say that Linus is even bigger POS than I thought he was.

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