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a drawing of a person wearing a balaclava and holding a gun with the text "all my homies hate tankies" :3

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most communists/socialists arent tankies (even if .ml tries really hard to convince everyone otherwise) but identify with hammer and sickle too :(

But fk tankies, I'm with you on that

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

i agree. i hope anti-authoritarians dont feel targeted. i personally would not call myself a communist or use hammer and sickle, because they are too charged but they can definitely represent things i can stand behind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just tag anyone getting upset in the comments. I've already seen 2 people I've previously tagged as tankies.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love my anarchist comrades and I love my communist comrades. I hate seeing memes like this. May we all be lucky enough to argue in the midst of a real revolution. Until then, focus on the fucking fascists.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Unity above all else. Absolutely. However Tankie rhetoric in good faith or from an agent provocateur is something that needs to be addressed directly. Any power structure without egalitarian praxis is antithetical to the movement. Communism and Anarchism are very similar to the point where there are anarcho communists.

I want to make sure that there is space for us to figure out self governance immediately after the revolution. I don't want to rely on a nascent "interim" government to hand it down to me.

https://viewpointmag.com/2018/06/11/intercommunalism-the-late-theorizations-of-huey-p-newton-chief-theoretician-of-the-black-panther-party/#f+9945+1+6

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Anarcho communism just makes sense. If communism is a moneyless, classless, stateless society, is it not by default anarchist as well?

And I’m not referring to any of the so called “communist” countries because they’re all variations of socialist and not communist. They all have a state.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Y’all really get weirdly triggered when someone says “we shouldn’t be arming Nazis.” Why is that?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Digging the anti-corporate vibes of a Games Workshop Chaos Star.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Should I work with Marxist-Leninists?

If you're organising at work or around housing issues, the people you work with are not going to all have the same politics at you, and your opinions on the July 1918 uprising of Left Socialist Revolutionaries after their expulsion from the Bolshevik government are not relevant to that situation. Yes, really, no-one gives a shit. You're relating to each other as workers in that situation, not as representatives of a political niche, at least we hope not.

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If there are real political and organisational disagreements, it's better to be open about them than gloss over them, and retain some independence.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

tankie colloquially refers to communists who deluded themselves into thinking authoritarianism can breed anything other than opression and that to give power to the people, you first got to take it away from the people.

its not impossible to work with tankies on low stake joined causes but with their usually hierarchical and authoritarian organising structures (that they even try to spread) they still make for shitty partners.

their idelology is misguided and harmful. i hope they all eventually learn and become anarchists. power to the people

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

tankie colloquially refers to communists who deluded themselves into thinking authoritarianism can breed anything other than opression and that to give power to the people, you first got to take it away from the people.

That is probably the most on point description.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

I don’t agree with the vision of an authoritarian state, even as a step towards something else, but my tankie friends, for example those in PSL, are doing a ton of good on the ground by organizing and funding busses to prison for the families of prisoners, helping support tenant unions, providing support for immigrants in the form of legal representation, continuously organizing against police injustices (especially in cases involving disabled, black, or queer people), and other issues that might arise in their locale. I respect the people continuously putting themselves and their resources on the line for others. I would be much quicker to lend disrespect to those that only talk and do nothing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Are they doing this to support the organization of a politburo and a direct line of authority from a single charismatic leader at the top? Do they make apoligistic statements for human injustices and advocate for the expansion of borders through war?

Otherwise they're just communists doing rad communist shit and you should labor to help them organize and shoulder their burdens.

I think there is a general misconception of communists especially here in the US and it's been a problem in leftist circles for a while.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

kein Gott, kein Staat, kein Patriarchat

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

No managers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

no masters

dont forget except putin, and xi and Stalin, lenin and mao zedong and assad, read theory shitlib

yes i lick boots, how can you tell? (god i want to be assrammed so badly by assad, something something lesser evil 🤤)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Surely this boot is worth licking!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

if they'll help hold a barricade idgaf

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

And how did that turn out in Spain?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Days

But I agree to an extent, tankies are not our biggest problem rn. Utilitarian alliances are fine. But never forget that they are not fighting for freedom

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

All my homies agree, I really look good in black, fool.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm deep left libertarian, borderline anarchist, but if I have to make a choice between auths- tankies or Nazis- I'll take tankies every time.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What if I told you that's a false dichotomy and not a choice you will ever have to make?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Then you will have told me that.

But real talk, it's looking more and more like some kind of auth future may be inevitable. I hope not.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Peace, Justice, and Anarchy >:3

[–] ZombiFrancis 2 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I remember a time when tankies were just the militant leftists that would literally and physically punch nazis. That was pretty much the only qualification required, anarchist or communist: if you were willing to do violence on a nazi you were the tankie and it didn't require some stance on NATO geopolitics.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ig the word changed meaning then :3

[–] ZombiFrancis 2 points 1 day ago

Absolutely co-opted, yeah.

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