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It is always morally acceptable to pirate things made by giant corporations (feddit.org)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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No, it's not like stealing a physical item from a store.

"stealing" a digital copy of a movie, tv show or a game is like if the item you're stealing from a store is infinitely copyable. Like the replicator from star trek...or that one episode of Sabrina the teenage witch with that box that can make a perfect copy of everything you put inside of it.

Of course I personally would never pirate anything, no matter how much streaming services increase their prices or how much they crack down on VPN usage to get around geo-restrictions, PIRACY IS BAD AND ONLY BAD PEOPLE DO IT.

I've never pirated anything in my whole life!

There are people who understand what I'm saying...but apparently most people don't get it.

Of course that means I still would never pirate anything. That would be horrible to "steal" a copy of a movie or a TV show

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Honestly if it's a big setup like Spotify or Netflix or etc, "royalties" don't mean shit to the production team / artists / whoever. Unless they're Mariah Carey levels of replayed every year everywhere to the tune of sitting on millions in checks yearly, they aren't going to get shit. Personally I'd rather support them in other ways such as buying merchandise, going to live shows etc but that's just me.

Remember though this is in minecraft, don't pirate irl because that is very bad and you will personally prevent executives at warn-a-brother from buying another learjet. Remember: "pirating is bad and you should feel bad" 😂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Even buying albums never netted the artist more than 20 or 30 percent unless they also owned the record label.

Buying their merch is the only real way to support an artist. They'll make way more out of it than any other way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

myth: ~~cable~~ piracy is wrong.

fact: ~~cable~~ companies are big, faceless corporations which makes it okay!

[–] Asparagus0098 2 points 1 week ago

Personally I don't really care too much about whether it's moral or not. I pirate when I feel like it and don't when I don't feel like it. I also pay for some things that I pirated before and enjoyed as long as it isn't too expensive.

[–] drascus 2 points 1 week ago

And yet you can borrow anything from the local library for free and its considered totally fine and not pirating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Big agree, also now I want to rewatch Sabrina the Teenage Witch lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Private property is theft piracy in all forms is morally exceptable. DMCA actively harms progress, and this isn't some techbro take as I disagree with AI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can you further expand on why you think it's bad? I'm generally curious.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

PIRACY IS WRONG AND IMMORAL! YOU SHOULD NEVER PIRATE ANYTHING! FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS PIRATE THINGS!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Was this in the Bible or something? Why is it immoral?

Let me ask this. Imagine 1 person owned many farms of food. They sell their food and they own a huge house on top of the hill. There is more than enough food to feed every person in town. The only way for anyone to get food is to buy it from this one person since he owns all of the farm land and if anyone tries to farm their own food, he uses his money to push them around and makes them stop.

A family is struggling to find work. The father asks the farm owner if he could get some food to eat. The farm owner obviously says no. Pay or no food, he says. The family ends up starving to death.

Would it be wrong for the family to steal food in this case so they can survive? Or is that immoral? Is the farm owner immoral for not helping them? He has plenty of money to last him 100 lifetimes, his belly is full, but he keeps eating. Who is wrong here?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It is always morally acceptable to pirate things ~~made by giant corporations~~

Fixed it for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd make a point saying that there's a personal moral and a broader societal understanding of morality, and they don't always align.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That's a fair point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I mean. I remember an article about an Amiga program that everyone used cracked, that only sold 1 copy. Sucks to be a small author in such a scenario.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Piracy is great because it helps you not support corporation’s greed. They can’t profit off of you 😄

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

But of course, piracy is bad. That's why you shouldn't ever do it! Why do you think every corporation has to get government handouts from the tax payers? Because we keep stealing from them....I mean...You keep stealing from them. I would never do that and I certainly don't ever do that. I haven't paid for any movies in over 10 years, so obviously that means I just don't watch anything that costs money to see.

I use a privacy friendly VPN that allows P2P because I play games online and no other reason

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, the replicator is making food out of SOMETHING. I'm guessing it's some kind of waste produce from the engine room. It needs matter to operate. It can't create ex-nihilo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The replicator from Star Trek makes matter out of pure energy, not out of other matter. It can make almost anything out of matter, so long as it has the molecular pattern on file, and the ship has enough energy available to power the replicators. That energy comes primarily from energy storage dedicated to replicator production, but in emergencies where a massive amount of matter need fabricated, additional power can be provided by the warp core.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So they're using several hiroshima's or nagasaki's worth of nuclear bomb's energy to produce a cup of Earl Gray, hot? Seems like using garbage or human waste would save a lot of energy?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the power required to produce a small amount of matter?

While we're at it, is a transporter actually transporting me? Or is it technically really replicating me?

Because what I assumed was happening was they essentially had a transporter like device that would take some matter (say a big pile of human dung) transport it (i.e, convert it into the atoms/energy/whatever the transporter uses run it through a pattern buffer that's stored in the transporter for say, Earl Gray hot) and beam it into the Captain's quarters as Earl Gray hot instead of poop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A cup of tea is around 500megatons if you convert all the matter into energy. We’re talking a few thousand Hiroshimas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think conversion from matter to energy and back again seems extreme. Maybe it's just matter to matter but something quantum level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Do they use the replicator when they’re not moving? Maybe they’re just picking up some hydrogen along the way?

Seems like high energy particles are easier to convert into new elements than low energy ones. Perhaps they’re transcribing uranium with the ingredients. Who knows.

[–] Noel_Skum 0 points 1 week ago

It literally depends on your morals… it’s a question only you can answer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

The only person stealing is the one who circumvents the DRM and shares it. It’s not stealing to see or hear something.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Pirates constantly trying to "morally" justify their action is by far the worst part of all pirate forums.

Its embarrassing how many pirates need the validation of strangers on the internet.

Isn't there a philosophy forum that these people could spam instead?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

For real

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It’s good because otherwise we would have only shady characters and kids and that would be even more annoying to read. We have this illusion of doing something right, part of some greater philosophical stance and thanks to it you can read the comments without digging through slurs. The piracy forums are usually very hard on the eyes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean people could just stick to actually discussing piracy instead of how people feel about piracy.

The community is a massive echo chamber. Its not like there is a vocal minority seriously arguing piracy is immoral or unethical. So its just copy pasta of a million other posts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

As I said I am glad they do that instead of some other things that often fly in the space where we don't care about the morals at all. Those places are tiresome and draining much more than some random philosophy post. Good, if they think about those things that means they are human. Someone who no longer cares about anything what they do and its effects and consequences is truly lost and more like an animal than a human.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Me: this place is an echo chamber.

You: let me repeat the exact same thing I just said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am not super good at text communication with strangers online in non native language, I am afraid we will not understand each other properly this time

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