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edit: As I'm seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.
It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That's a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world's federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won't be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world's 196, we're leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here's the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: [email protected])

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago

This ain’t it.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (5 children)

OK, I think I see where you're coming from. But lemmy.world already has several meme, shitpost, and microblog repost communities. Why does lemmy.world need c/196? Up til now the fact that it was on blahaj.zone was what made it stand out.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago

Wow this is disappointing. Lemmy world seems so massive already which kinda defeats the purpose of federating a bit I feel. Too centralized. I’m just waiting for the seemingly inevitable implosion of world haha.

I mean ultimately it’s whatever, it is what it is and I’ll follow 196 wherever it goes.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago

How about no?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago

if you're concerned about defederation, why would you go to lemmy.world, which seems no better on that front than lbz?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago

Would you consider reconsidering?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

if i could downvote, i would! >>>>>>:((((((((

this is a VERY UNCOMFY move!!! >>>>:((((

just to make it obvious, these are ANGRY FACES!!! ~~(im saying this cuz maybe 196 mods or whatever cannot understand these kinds of emotions)~~

">" are the ANGRY EYEBROWS! ":" are the EYES and "(" is the SAD MOUTH!!!

I AM VERY SAD! i will NOT lurk on ur evil .world "replacement".

this is NOT what the FEDIVERSE IS MEANT TO BE!!!!

the fediverse is meant to be DECENTRALIZED!!! across MULTIPLE INSTANCES!

this is NOT a "very fediverse move" you are doing here. This is a "reddit move"!

im gonna say it. this is straight up u/spez stuff happening here.

i HOPE that my comment gets blocked or removed by my instance maintainers, so that it becomes OBVIOUS that such hatespeech, which is allowed on .world is NOT OKAY!

(yes i mean my hatespeech rn, im in evil mode today, this is very evil, i dun like this at all. will not support this evil behavior)

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago

seriously? that's a bad decision.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago

Great, more centralization to .world...

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago

Fuck off, dividing a marginalized community over petty shit.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

oh boy i can't wait to be randomly shadowbanned just like on every lemmy.world community where i open my stupid tranny mouth too much.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

BOOOO!

Let us keep our own community right here on Blåhaj!

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Please don't. Like really, or make your own new community. It being on blahaj zone is good

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Who defederates from blåhaj? Why? As far as I can see it's just a queer instance only bigots would defederate.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins

Can you expand on this? It's not really clear to me why you're making this move.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago

Adding my voice to the pile. Leave it here. Unlock it and let new mods take over. You can do your thing wherever you want. But let us do our thing where we want.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Time to make /196part two on Blahaj I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As someone whose home instance is LW, this is not a good idea. Like, at all. I suggest at least hosting some kind of poll, chances are if people disagree they'll just make a second community on this instance or another one regardless.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Fuck this. I'll be blocking the ~~new~~ fake 196 then.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why Lemmy.world over other servers?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

Keep this community open for everyone and find a new mod team. With the world admin team "busting echo chambers" (even thoughs that aren't echo chambers) by overarching mod undercutting admin action, I'm extremely worried that this alone will ruin 196 as a whole. The etiquette on world is also different which will result in the altering of the community into some unknown. The quality content may also suffer a degradation as the culture of blajha and world are not the same.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (25 children)

The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences

Such as?

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[–] Jumuta 37 points 1 week ago

the ideology of blahajzone isn't one I 100% agree with but it's honestly imo the best suited for 196, given that on The Other Website 196 is a fork of 195 that grew to be specifically queer/trans focused. People had other choices like 197, but they specifically chose 196, and I think there's a point to make in that.

as for the Lemmy.World choice, I really don't get it and probably will not migrate there, and really don't like that you guys are feeding the centralisation and concentration of power when there are so many wonderful instances out there. I like shitjustworks myself because it feels very non-interfery and open, but there's so many other options too.

this whole thing honestly feels disheartening given how 'default' the choice of lemmy.world feels, like you all put no thought into the decision before making it.

please just remember that we understand that you all are human and will accept apologies if you think they are necessary

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago

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[–] hmmm 35 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago

What are your thoughts on the Beehaw and any other instances' users who are going to be forceably left behind by this change?

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