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Since the recent Proton events I need to change providers and I found RiseUP.

I would like to know how good is this service and if I should consider it.

Moreover as I know that it is no open to sign up how to get a RiseUP account? THX for all

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you can get a invite code, sure. Or you also can try out Disroot.

I personally pay for Posteo (1 euro/mo).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Okay thanks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Are you an anarchist or libertarian? Its mostly intended for such leftists to use. Also theres the invite codes people mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Riseup requires invite codes from 2 active users, I believe.

I used to have an account, but lost access after a device of mine was stolen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

2 users? I thought only one

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

It may have changed since I used it, but when I signed up, it required two.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I used to be in a group that use it, and it works very well; we made great use of the mailing list feature, which Proton lacks beyond "contact groups". The only thing is getting an invitation, which I seem to recall reading they're not doing any more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Riseup provides email accounts and mailing lists. Anyone can create a mailing list.

But for an email account you will need to know a friend who can give you an invite code. Riseup is meant for activists though.

Disroot is open for anyone to ask for an account.

Don't forget to donate to Disroot if you can : https://disroot.org/en/blog/disnews-24.12

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

How okay so it's going to be hard, will surely go with disroot!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Posteo is a great service that I've used for a few years, now. I've never had a single issue with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Moreover as I know that it is no open to sign up how to get a RiseUP account?

Invite. Last time I checked, they weren't allowing invites because of abuse.

Tbh if you don't know anyone with an account you are almost definitely not the target demographic. If you need just email then there are plenty of more general privacy email providers that aren't specifically for organisers, or you could self-host.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Give Tuta a look while you're at it, it's been serving me well.
Too bad they don't have an .onion site like proton does.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah I've used Tuta before, nothing more to say, it's an email provider

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm out of the loop. What happened to proton?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Firstly, the proton CEO took the position of supporting Trump by saying that "they are standing up for little people". Saying that reps are good supporters of antitrust laws.

Secondly, the official proton account replied to his post and agreed on the fact that reps are more likely to defeat big corps against monopoly. They deleted their post later. (The proton official post)

So since then we cannot stand in a corp that is promoting these people. That's why I asked about riseUP

Source : https://lemmy.world/post/24301835

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've only recently started using proton but knowing that, I'm out. Thanks for the heads up.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Keep in mind Andy Yen is only one of five board members of the Proton Foundation.

Also, I don't see his tweet as "pro-trump", rather that he is completely ignorant of US politics and he is just spewing his uneducated opinions.

But it is concerning...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My issue was not that Andy Yen made the comment he did (as much as I disagree). My problem was the Proton account making an official statement doubling down on it.

He did make a subsequent post trying to clarify and apologize, but at this point, the cat is out of the bag, IMO. I’m switching to Tuta for email, Mullvad for VPN, and self-hosting Nextcloud for storage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Rely on a company that is governed by this kind of CEO is not that good
And then the official proton account doubled it soo...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Sorry, I was using it since almost 6 months too but now I'm leaving.

I will go with disroot as said in other comments of this post. RiseUP seems pretty hard to get into.

(Note that email is not secure from start (unless you setup proper encryption between you and your correspondent), so this feature is not a need (do not misunderstand it with local email encryption))