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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

You forgot ncis

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"But they're just TV shows" "it's not that deep" etc. I would implore you to listen to this excellent episode of Citations Needed..

It covers how modern cop shows were invented directly to counter shows that portrayed defence lawyers as the protagonists, along with a general push to lionize the police state despite its inability to prevent crime or deliver real justice.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Crazy how much of this stuff is subsidized by or directly financed by the national security state. The most infamous, in my memory anyway, was the Transformers Franchise which got enormous access to US military staff and equipment during the shooting. The end result was a movie that felt more like one of those hookey 80s "Join the Marines" ads than a piece of action cinema.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

Captain America is a weird one to include. Not denying it's propaganda, everything is, but throwing Cap in with copaganda is such a surface level take. He's propaganda for American exceptionalism sure, but also embodies it in an old school New Deal way. The character has been consistently anti-facist over the years.

Imo Iron Man is the much more harmful propaganda. You can pretty much draw a direct line between the characters rise in popularity thanks to the MCU and the rise of Elon Musk.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Any superhero movie is problematic. They all say that only a few special people can save the country and the world. The rest of the population just has to hold tight and let the important people do their thing. It's just a small step by replacing powers with wealth to give the rich carte blanche to do as they please.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not those scenes in Spider-Man where New York throws random objects at the villain until they relent. Hell yeah solidarity.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

Not to mention that a lot of those special people are born better

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 days ago

People kept calling Musk -- Stark because they thought he was a scientist/genius. Like the MCU fake tech was gonna be birthed out of this immature edge lord that steals people's idea with stolen money.

Yeah I kinda disagree with Cap as well. He also explicitly refutes the government to stand up what he believes is right in Civil War too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Elon was literally in 2 at the Grand Prix

[–] ShareMySims 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He’s propaganda for American exceptionalism sure, but also embodies it in an old school New Deal way. The character has been consistently anti-facist over the years.

Pretending that America isn't only already fascist, but inspired the fascists they are supposedly against is American exceptionalism, and you're eating it right up.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I like the myth of the police, not actual cops, I like Simon Pegg in Hot Fuzz, actual cops can suck a nard

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 days ago (5 children)

You can enjoy TV shows and movies while knowing ACAB is the truth.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

For me now I think of it like a marvel movie.

This cop not shooting anyone is just like a man with superpowers swinging through the city on sci fi ropes.

It's nice to imagine.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Really depends. Cops shows are really off putting to me. Marvel is kinda OK; not a fan, but it's so over the top that I can abstract from the propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would critique capital end up reinforcing it instead.

Disco Elysium

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

NGL CSI was my shit growing up. Though I was never deluded into believing that accurately reflected reality to any extent. ACAB

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

should have replaced CSI NY with Blue Bloods, same message, same city.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Back the blue and buy a reverse mortgage

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Where does stuff like Brooklyn 99 come in?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I tend to lump it in with The West Wing as idealistic wish fulfilment of how we'd like things to be, or a picture of our human potential.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Fetish content

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't get it... its super

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Moonie (Moon Channel) has a lovely 2h30 video on the topic of Kawaii: Anime, Propaganda, and Soft Power Politics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM2VIKfaY0Y

It focuses mostly on the eastern part of things, but it applies to stuff we end up consuming, too. Also worth quoting one of the top comments in the video:

I think you get one thing wrong, and that is claiming Japan is the #1 at projecting soft power. I'm sorry but the US is #1 and it isn't even a contest (coming from a non-American). The reason we don't really get the impression that the US is this soft power behemoth is because the US has been so proficient in projecting soft power that it has been normalized and integrated everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Bro thinks Startship Troopers is actual army propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Didn't captain America literally become a fugitive of the state

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (11 children)

He threw a tantrum because he didn't want public oversight over his and his friend's superpowers.

It was basically a "You're a loose canon, McBain" cop storyline.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The cop dramas are often like modern fantasy to me. There's different classes and quests. It doesn't reflect real life.

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