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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I think most of this was caught immediately when the announcement was made (like the edited live coding), and in any case I can't stand watching this video to the end. "This scared the pants off every software developer in the world" no. No it hasn't. That's just not true. Why do you even say that. The immediate first reaction of any SE with even a passing awareness of how marketing of software tools works and not completely high on genAI farts was "ye that won't work" and, fucking shocking, it doesn't work, wow, no way.

People were trying to sell you that software engineers will be obsolete because "codeless apps" like 10 years ago. Wizards were supposed to eliminate jobs because they'd generate code so well. Knowing SQL was supposed to be completely obsoleted with ORMs. I'm too young to have been there but apparently XML was supposed to "solve networking" or something nonsensical like that.

Those ads aren't targeted at software engineers. They're targeted at execs. It's execs who get all excited that they can start firing their expensive and pesky developers that complain so much. Software engineers worth their salt don't buy this shit because bollocks like these come as part of the job description.

Anyway, trying to frame it as "it was supposed to be this revolutionary tool to replace developers" without mentioning that this is a song that's been sung for fucking decades is a disservice to the topic. Nothing makes executives as wet as the thought of not having to deal with those fucking "specialists" that they need to pay actual salaries and can't huff down their necks 8h a day with a whip to use if they don't hit KPIs. And that's extremely important to have in focus when you talk about shit like this and wonder "why did they raise so much money". Because VCs hate labour that's why. The answer is always that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They’re targeted at execs. It’s execs who get all excited that they can start firing their expensive and pesky developers that complain so much.

Your corporate boss just saw an article about AI (yt short)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

yt short

may shorts forever die writhing (along with the people that made it happen)

such a fucking abysmal format, coming along only because ~~twitter~~ ~~periscope~~ ~~facebook-lying-to-everyone~~ ~~quibi~~ "tiktok" popularity made every bigtech shitlord feel product fomo and decide they had to do it ritenao just in case they miss the next big thing, despite afterward still sitting on the exact same extractivist bullshit as their source of money as before

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Yes. Not totally sure if this was a short of just a vertical vid, but those also suck.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Painfully accurate. All I keep hearing from my boss is, "We're falling behind. Everybody else is already capitalizing on AI and we're not." If I ask what our competitors are using it for then it becomes clear they aren't. It's the other companies at conferences that he's comparing us to, with use cases that aren't even in our industry.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“This scared the pants off every software developer in the world” no. No it hasn’t. That’s just not true.

Yeah, fair, I also did not really agree with that part. Essentially everyone i nmy vicinity "hyped" for this were non-technical people.

Why do you even say that.

(Just to be clear, it's not my video, I just thought it fit here)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Oh don't worry, I wouldn't suspect someone from around TechTakes to have such framing on this issue.

It's obvious the video is tailored for usual YouTube-y overexaggeration clickbait style, but like, if you are going to speak for devs maybe talk to some of them first lol.