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Democratic West Virginia senator calls the Inflation Reduction Act, hailed as ‘biggest step on climate crisis’, a ‘radical agenda’

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"I'm playing both sides, so I always come out on top"

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boooobbbbyyy Newport never worked a real day in his life

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's enough Jerry, now you're just playing around.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

He actually is, though, and doing it very well

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (5 children)

These politicians are not afraid of the people and thats a damn shame

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Manchin actually is...

He talks a big talk, but everytime a progressive like Bernie or Warren went down to WV to talk to his voters...

Manchin stopped opposing his own party, but said it'll never work again.

WV voters support most progressive policies, and when people explain Manchin is opposed to all the stuff his voters support, Manchin gets scared. Because all his promises to not run again are lies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Manchin stopped opposing his own party

As though there was ever a time when he did.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

But he IS afraid of his constituents. That's why he's switching his positions, because he's afraid of being voted out next year

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the opposite of what is happening here. He is afraid of his constituents in West Virginia. It's his electors that would rather see the world burn than lose their own inflated incomes. WV's economy is very tied to fossil fuels.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Too bad there wasn’t some huge pool of spending allocated, that they could use to diversify their economy and energy sources. As the world flushes down fossil fuel companies, the pay seem determined to ride that wave

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Then fix it for us.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Proof positive he's running for re-election.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

He has met the enemy, and it is him.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In response, one advocate for climate action accused Manchin, who she called an “oily senator”, of “talk[ing] out of whichever side of his mouth will please the polluting fossil fuel industry”.

In a statement on Wednesday, Manchin said the IRA was “one of the most historic pieces of legislation passed in decades … re-establish[ing] an all-of-the-above energy policy and empowered the growth of fossil fuels and renewables.

“Senator Manchin talks out of whichever side of his mouth will please the polluting fossil fuel industry,” said Jean Su, energy justice director at the Center for Biological Diversity.

“As we continue to see the horrific impacts of climate change, from extreme heat to deadly flooding and wildfires, we can’t afford inaction,” said the organization’s president, Abigail Dillen.

Such a candidacy could be supported by No Labels, a group seeking to mount a third-party campaign against Biden and his presumed opponent, Donald Trump, who have historically low ratings with the voting public.

On Wednesday, Manchin said the US “needs leadership and my hope is that elected leaders in both parties and in the White House put down their political swords [and] stop playing to the ideological extremes”.


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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something something R in D’s clothing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

To be fair, it's one of the old school Republicans that would cross the aisle and vote for something Democrats made that are now Extinct in modern Politics. They died with John McCain, honestly. Better Manchin than Sinema or an actual modern Republican.

If I had to vote in 5-10 more Joe Manchin style "Democrats" to kick the same number of Republicans out of office in Red States, I would. Especially if it gave us 60 Democrats and the ability to have a filibuster-proof majority. Even if they were like "Immigrants are bad" or "All guns are good" or "We have to stop being woke about gays and trans and pronouns." or whatever, as long as they weren't all of that at once (and preferably only ONE of those at once) I'd vote them in, so long as they voted to do something about climate change, and also hopefully to reform the economy so all the money and power's not in the hands of the big megacorps and billionaires.

People won't stop being stupid and bigoted, so we have to take the wins we can. Everyone complains that Republicans keep trotting out "God, Guns, and Gays" every time they campaign, but what they're not addressing is that Republicans keep WINNING with the 3 G's and also immigration. They hold the house and have enough of the senate to filibuster everything. They've also used their control of the house and senate (and Presidency, when they have it) to pack the Supreme Court too.

I honestly want Democrats and liberal ideological purists to start being realistic now that the world is burning down around us and see that we've run out of time and need to start winning now, or else we won't have a future. The fact that young Republicans believe in and want to do something about climate change is also a good thing. Reality is about power and consensus, it's not about ideals.