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the constitution will save us
Says the people whose constitution didn't stop a traitor from becoming president
Turns out the constitution is just a piece of paper.
I love the way people think the Constitution matters any more.
The constitution is a piece of paper. Laws set and rights granted by the Constitution require people to actually enforce and uphold them. If there is nobody willing or able to enforce and uphold them, then it carries about as much weight and gravity as a mattress tag.
If Trump says he wants to revoke your broadcast license, and the FCC says it's going to revoke your broadcast license, and the Trump-friendly Supreme Court says they can revoke your broadcast license, then you don't have a broadcast license. Full stop. Sure, you can say you have 1st amendment protections, but if the people tasked with upholding those protections are falling in line behind Trump (spoiler alert: They are), then you might as well be preaching about your 1st amendment protections to pigeons in the park for all the good that's going to do for you.
Going the next step, FCC licenses only have as their paper. If people want to broadcast, the only thing stopping them will be their own grit against whatever the gov't wants to throw at them, be it a few lawyers or SWAT teams.
Even if the court says they can't revoke, the court has no power to stop them.
Sure they do. Once revoked they can keep broadcasting. They get fined... they take that to court. If the court doesn't uphold the fine, they don't have to pay it.
Bet, pirate meshed SDR broadcasts it is. Evil can be powerful, but never endures.
I thought these people were all "free speech absolutists"?
Or does that only apply when companies are trying to pump the brakes on spreading Kremlin agitprop to divide this country and hand it to the likes of Putin's puppet, donvict?
Straight out of the fascist playbook.
It's why all the big media billionaires are lubing their asses and bending over for Trump
So fascism it is. The first step is always to control the media and propagandize the whole population and cement their control over the narrative.
Right. It’s harder now, because we see it coming and have other outlets… but will we just let it happen? I’m thinking probably.
because we see it coming and have other outlets…
Not for long we don't.
The Washington Post refused to endorse Harris during the Presidential race, fearing retribution if Trump ended up winning.
Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski made a trip to Mar-A-Lago to bend the knee to Trump out of fear of retribution for their coverage of Trump during his political career.
ABC just opted to cough up $15 million and forced George Stephonopolous to apologize to Trump for simply reporting a judge's statements that Trump had raped E. Jean Carroll, out of fear of having to battle through a rigged court system and concerns over political and legislative retribution. Let that sink in.
Numerous independent media sources have become significantly more Trump-friendly since Trump became President-elect, largely out of being made an example of, and fear of being caught in a legal battle they don't have the resources to fight through even if they system wasn't rigged in Trump's favor.
The "truth" is now whatever Trump says it is. He has already forced ABC into submission and has threatened investigations and criminal charges against others, which he absolutely has the power to follow through with. Emboldened by the ABC settlement, he has already filed lawsuits and threatened criminal investigations and charges against others. Do you honestly think that any other media outlet is going to report objective truth under those conditions, knowing the risks of angering Trump and knowing he has the ability to follow through on his threats?
I'm not sure which independent outlets you're referring to, so I'll ignore that part. The rest of your comment is about the behavior of corporate media. They have always sucked off whoever's in power. That's what they're there for.
Outlets…. As in ways to share info.
We already have. Those who get their news from mainstream tv networks and corporate owned newspapers are already consuming corporate propaganda. Social networks are also compromised by foreign entities, bots, and billionaires and have become echo chambers.
What else is left?
Those suicide booths look amazingly comfortable. I wonder if they have a color option that would go well with my couch.
Its so funny the way he accuses everyone of going after him personally with witch hunts and all and the way republicans talk about choosing winners and losers. Projection really defines this party.
Yep. The minute the qons started up with the qanon narratives, I was pretty sure prominent members of the qons are trafficking kids. I'm also not entirely certain that they are not trying to utilize adrenochrome somehow....
Because it works.
Think of when you were a kid. When you and your siblings got into a fight and ran to mommy, who won? Whatever kid got to mommy first. Mommy really didn't care about the story itself. Whoever got there first won, and the rest were told "stop annoying your brother." And then when they do exactly what you just got in trouble for, mommy just said not to make up stories and accuse your brother of doing what you just got in trouble for. Any attempt at defending yourself was often met with "I said enough! Now go to your room before you get grounded."
Same thing applies here. Trump has mastered the political equivalent of running to mommy (the public) first. Trump has mastered the art of accusing everybody else of doing what he either is doing or intends to do, knowing full well that any attempts at holding him accountable will look like petty sour grapes. And the rest of the party have been taking notes.
When you and your siblings got into a fight and ran to mommy, who won?
I did. I had the longest memory and was the meanest son of a bitch in the family.
Trump's a whiner and a liar. But he wouldn't stand a chance against an organized and committed mass opposition. And anyone who cares how that might look to the average Fox viewer isn't committed.
Might
SCOTUS:
Yeah, I don’t mean to be pessimistic, but given all the knee bending, I don’t have much hope for the next 4 years and beyond when it comes to freedom. I don’t think most MAGA people have respect for the constitution or law & order. That respect seems to be eroded.
Bold of you to assume it'll only be 4 years.
It’s 4 years until the next scheduled bullshit, whether that’s a third term, eradicating the constitution, or bringing about the end of America / the west / humanity. We could all go up sooner, but I expect Bo Burnham’s “7 more to go,” to somehow be right (came out in 2021, so 2028 seems about right).
We lost freedoms during Bush, carried on by every president since. I guess we’ll see what happens to the machinations next…
Thanks for the updoots & the fish. Hope it was a good ride.
Won't
When first amendment rights fail, when a peaceful democratic system that is supposed to protect you, fails, theres only one solution to reverse this, that is to [Redacted By lemmy.world Admins]!
Now, now, you don't want to be uncivil to the feds who have their boot on your neck!
Simply consult an earlier document that speaks of governmental change and when it becomes necessary. The Declaration of Independence spoke about a different ruling body with different infractions upon the people, but the logic is the same.
Freedom™*
Is the First Amendment going to grab Pig Boy by the lapel and punch him in hte face? Because last I checked, there are no self-enforcing laws made by humans. Laws of physics, yeah, but they're descriptive rather than prescriptive so aren't really the same thing.
freedom of speech/press/religion was fun while it lasted
Bet there was ketchup on the wall at that meeting…
It won't. He owns the SCOTUS. They will twist ~~president~~ precedent in knots to justify whatever they want.
Guessing you got “precedent” autocorrected.
Hahah yep. But it'd be a nice precedent to twist this upcoming president in knots.
Lol Constitution.