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What's kids for cash? Sounds like the name of a child sex trafficking ring
Judge got kick backs for sending teens to jail, even for the most minor offense that would normally warrant a warning.
For some reason, the kars4kids jingle played in my head.
1-877 kids for cash
K-I-D-S kids for cash
1-877 kids for cash
convict your kids today
That's basically what it was. But prison.
Asshole for letting that corrupt piece of shit get out early. That judge caused irreparable harm.
I don't disagree, but there were 1,500 people on that list, and everyone's acting like Biden himself personally reviewed every one of them. It's more likely to me that someone on his staff fucked up - or more likely was paid to sneak one in - than the idea that he himself added said judge knowingly.
Had 4 years to do it
Oh, grow up. It's unlikely that was anywhere near the top of his priority list upon entering office with a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic raging.
Grow up, he's the head of the executive branch and could've assigned an intern 4 years ago and gotten good enough results without letting a corrupt judge go.
I'll amend my statement: Asshole for not paying closer attention.
He ain't the what any sane person would like, but in a crowded market of shitty politicians to choose from, he could be far worse - as many believe (myself included) we're about to find out.
Regardless, 1,500 people is a LOT to review the backgrounds of - especially with the time he has left. I don't think we should be surprised a few bad apples made it through the review process, and I'd rather risk that than those who actually were deserving of it not get theirs as well.
TL;DR: I don't think an understandably rushed process makes him any more of an imperfect human being than he already was. I'm not happy with some decisions he's made, but on the whole he's been no worse than the average.
He didnt need to rush it. Lets say a blanket statement on people who got arrested for weed, or committed crime against the state would have been easier to manage vs someone harmed someone else.
Also the list could have been drafted a while back, but it was clear he doesn't care.
I Personally believe there is no redeeming for someone seeing the genocide in Gaza and can save millions of lives and choses not to do so. And if he doesn’t value the lives of kids and children, he doesn’t care for low class citizen if the united states as well because he lack the humanity to do so.
From my understanding, this was a "blanket" release of those who fit certain non-violent criminal charges. Nothing in this world is perfect. Nothing.
So you saying, rapist, killers, and maybe drug and human traffickers might be on the list as well?
Anything's possible. The bulk should be okay. I'd rather allow some criminals out than continue to jail those who don't deserve it - which would make up the vast majority of those people.
Downvoted for "slammed"
And welcome to the JAM
Yeah I hope he's OK. He's pretty elderly and someone picking him up and slamming him onto the ground can't be good for him.
Oh this is just lazy journalism? Never mind.
Not a defense of Biden, bit maybe this is why?
Buried in the massive list of nearly 1,500 people
You are correct. They hatched a plan to grant clemency to a slew of people who were convicted of non-violent crimes that were switched to home confinement during the pandemic and who kept their noses clean since then. So a bunch of people who tended to skew older and committed financial crimes. No one thought to look at the details, I guess, so he pardoned some people he probably shouldn't have.
Frankly, what's done is done. He needs to now pardon all the kids who were convicted by this asshole and his partner, because they are the ones who really deserve it.
I don't think he can. This is a former county judge who oversaw state cases. It would require the governor and/or state AG to pardon those kids. I actually think there was a commission set up specifically for that purposes, which led to hundreds of vacated convictions and a class action lawsuit that recovered millions in damages.
Ah, you are right. I saw a recent article about the parents of some of those kids who were pissed off and I misremembered the article. I thought that the parents were seeking clemency for their kids. What they actually said in the article was that they wanted "to see the 'same kind of compassion and mercy' extended to juvenile defendants around the country." Which is not something Biden could do anyway because, as you say, those were state level courts/charges.
It always reminds me of the West Wing episode where the commutation lawyer asks if the president is looking for "packing peanuts." Like, does he have a buddy that needs their sentence commuted and wants a smokescreen for the move.
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I think at this point Biden doesn’t give a flying fuck. His political career is coming to a close and he can retire.
Maybe, and hear me out here, maybe it wasn't a great idea to treat a president as king with no way to reign in their power other than waiting until the next election cycle.
There are multiple ways to reign in a president.
If politicians are unwilling to take any of those ways, then it's not only the president lacking accountability.
You are correct, it's clear he doesn't care. It's just a shame that the mask-off, nothing to lose Biden still bends over backwards to help Israel commit genocide, commutes this sentence in particular, and pardons his own son while doing nothing that the average American could consider helpful. Mask-off Biden really sucks.
I don’t understand why people think he would react any other way. He has always been a Zionist and his views have not changed. Not that as President he has much choice not to cave the desire of allies and the pressure of the military industrial complex.
I do wish he at least showed some backbone about Israel’s genocide, but honestly the US has a historical background to f not giving a fuck. Do people not remember all the atrocities that the US committed in Iraq/Afghanistan under Bush?
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He should also be "dragged" and "condemned".
Before he's tried for abetting genocide. He violated numerous laws. Leahy for starters.
"Slammed"
Cringe use of words
Would be fun if one of the victims of that judge were to literally body slam Biden, though. Hypothetically.
Biden didn't actually intentionally pardon him, Biden signed off on a broad commutation/pardon for many nonviolent crimes who have had good behavior.
President Biden is commuting the sentences of nearly 1,500 people who were released from prison and placed on home confinement during the coronavirus pandemic and is pardoning 39 Americans convicted of nonviolent crimes. It's the largest single-day act of clemency in modern history.
This particular judge just happened to qualify by chance. Some kids in similar situations might have also been eligible for the same type of pardon.
That’s shitty. That Judge is an asshole.
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