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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (5 children)

“Bought this Tesla before Elon Musk became a huge asshole. Sorry”

wait, Tesla didn’t exist back then

[–] penguin 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Before he revealed himself to be one

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Electric cars are still cars, and therefore do fuck-all to fix the real problem of excessive use of land for parking lots, low-density zoning, and lack of walkability.

The only way to have communities that are healthy and sustainable (ecologically, financially, or otherwise) is to fix the zoning code so that folks don't need to drive in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Or just reduce the need to drive, for example by encouraging remote work.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Oh man when almost everything was remote my commute was so nice. 12 miles in 15 - 17 minutes instead of almost double that everyday.

Unfortunately I operate a forklift so I have to be there in person but damn was it super nice.

Currently I'm trying to encourage and raise support for more bike infrastructure locally so it's an actually viable option intead of it's currently not so viable state.

[–] penguin 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Convert all the empty offices to apartments. Solves housing supply problems, makes a lot of dense units instead of sprawl, puts them right next to any of the offices that have reopened, and would make the owners of the office buildings happy so they'd hopefully get out of the way of WFH (if they're doing any lobbying or propaganda or whatnot).

I know it's too expensive to be worth it, but it's a perfect thing for governments to give grants for since it has so many benefits.

It's happening a bit in Canada.

Projects are undervway in Calgary and Halifax; others are being planned or debated in Toronto, London, Ont., and Yellowknife.

From here

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I remember when Teslas used to be cool.

Now I see them all the time, and they might as well swap the badge for one that says “cunt”, it would be less embarrassing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Buy a Tesla because you're trying to help the environment and it was regarded as the best EV at the time

Tesla starts making their products shittier

Tesla lied about range

Tesla CEO loses his mind, buys a social media company, drives it into the ground

Someone on the internet says you're a cunt because you own a Tesla

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Tesla drivers were the new BMW douchebags on the road well before he bought Twitter. I got buzzed by in a parking lot the other day by someone doing at least 30, so close it felt like a huge gust of wind. Turned to see a teslas within a foot of me. Jackass drivers in near silent cars in parking lots are a great combo. If the sensors and self driving worked for shit it would of never let them get that close to me.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Extra frustrating because even though Musk is associated wholesale with Tesla, he is not actually a founder.

Yet another example of the rich running shit into the ground with poor decisions.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

As much as I think musk is an asshole he did put his money where his mouth is in Tesla which notably almost went bankrupt twice. The reality is that Elon distaste matters orders of magnitude less to buyers than value. I mean people hate Walmart and yet they make a ton of money. Other manufacturers cannot make profitable cars at the price point Tesla is offering. Tesla is going to end up the largest car manufacturer in the world. On Twitter yeah he is running it into the ground arguably on purpose but on Tesla and space x he is doing pretty good. I don't understand what people taking this angle think the founder would have done better. The founder would have just gone bankrupt with Tesla or sold to someone else.

I would also add that people don't deal with Elon when buying a Tesla, but they do have to deal with shitty dealers when buying another brand.

Most people are just going to buy the car that is the best value with the least effort.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

people don't deal with Elon when buying a Tesla, but they do have to deal with shitty dealers when buying another brand.

I'm not gonna defend the state of the dealership system, but from what I hear, getting Teslas fixed is awful in unique ways.

Tesla is going to end up the largest car manufacturer in the world.

They're the largest by stock price, but in EVs/year they were surpassed by a chinese company a couple years ago, and both traditional and new companies are closing the gap Tesla got from all the early capital that was dumped into them. They never came close if you include non-electric cars.

Other manufacturers cannot make profitable cars at the price point Tesla is offering.

There's tons of electric cars at the price point Tesla offers, with a fraction of the issues. One thing I did notice is other companies limit what they're willing to import into the US to avoid competing with more expensive models (eg, no company imports cheap electric convertibles or station wagon because they'd compete with higher-end electric cars and SUVs/pickups respectively), but I'm not aware of any market segment that doesn't have a competitive non-tesla equivalent.

Awhile ago, someone counted the number of local news stories of people getting immolated by their Teslas. It was more per car sold than the Ford Pinto.

Between:

spoiler

Locking the person in when power fails

Wompy Wheels

Steering wheel come off while you are driving

Tesla's tendency to drive into the back of stopped emergency vehicles or stop on highways due to changing light conditions

The trunk

$500 door handles with 10 dollars worth of electronics that fail due to moisture and ice (this one was improved. They're still $500 though)

The car lying about its range

Shoddy build quality

A dozen other issues I hear from Tesla owners

The only way I can understand Tesla not being as big of a joke as the Ford Pinto is some combination of outlets that would amplify these stories to become national news also tend to own stock in the largest car company, and Tesla having a team that's 10x better than Ford's at shutting down negative publicity.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (61 children)

But ultimately, according to the survey, most Tesla owners plan to buy a Tesla again.

Lol

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I've seen a lot of that, including tweets from bazingas that show wacky shit like car doors falling off but then say "STILL LOVE THE CAR THOUGH!" so-true

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (9 children)

No one cares about the rich assholes who own other car companies, so why Tesla? For example Toyota were some of the biggest campaign donors to Trump.

Also what does this have to do with Fuck Cars? This is about the minutiae of car culture... We should be talking about trains and bicycles here.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

the american urge to paste your opinions on your automobile

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I’m sure the resale value plummeting after the driving range bullshit was exposed probably doesn’t factor into the not selling. Right?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I bought it before the twitter stuff

but you bought it well after everyone knew they were shit quality explosive deathtraps and that he was a paedophile

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a thin shield of irony because pretty much every Tesla owner I know was already a complete douchebag before the Twitter thing. maybe-later-honey maybe-later-kiddo farquaad-point

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would prefer they drive a Tesla than a petrol car. But if they swap to another electric car, I'll take it. I hope they advocate for better public transport links locally though.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What would be the purpose of swapping ?

It wouldn’t automagically reuse the resources used to build the Tesla car into another one.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

This is a stretch but with bad press the resale value of existing teslas may drop to within reach of more consumers who would otherwise drive an ICE.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I don't hurl insults at Tesla owners. If they're dumb enough to stick to owning a car more likely to explode than a Pinto while not even having the panels line up correctly on a $40k "luxury" car, then there's no pox I could wish on them worse than what they're already signed up for. dumpster-fire

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the equivalent of voting Republican, then complaining how everything is getting worse.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what is about americans and bumper stickers

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lmao imagine being this big a loser you feel like apologizing to everyone because you bought a shit car

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Tesla is not a company of one person.

Edit: I get wanting to protect yourself from folks who want to take their Elon rage out on random tesla, but isn't it easier to just talk to folks about this?

Thank you for sharing the article, op.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

what a patetic testament , so they brougt their fucking car (Most Pricy Class of Consumer Item ) based on them liking the melon-musk hype lib train (oviously not actually a Train thats way to efficent and proven) , joyfully driving on the Smuglane ,.. now after the "X" melon-musk stuff , and Elon having puplic shifted into the Chud lane , they now drive their Tesla on the Crinch highway in such paranoid hyperawareness that they put a fucking Bumperstckr on their car to Preactivly apolegize .... Never be that Pathetic ...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Oh come on, they had to have known how much of a weenie he was even before the twitter stuff lol.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Whatever. I bought a tesla because it's still the best EV when it comes to range and charging network, and during the pandemic Tesla was the only manufacturer who didnt inflate cost due to chip shortages. I dont care for Musk, but most ceo's are douches, hes just the loudest.
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