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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But ultimately, according to the survey, most Tesla owners plan to buy a Tesla again.

Lol

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I've seen a lot of that, including tweets from bazingas that show wacky shit like car doors falling off but then say "STILL LOVE THE CAR THOUGH!" so-true

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yyyyyyyup. I was hoping to get away from reddit's hivemind of "Teslas are shit cars" but with Musk at the helm I don't think that's possible. Are they perfect? No. Are they awesome? IMO, yes.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tesla's are shit cars though, and it has nothing to do with Musk. They have little to no driver feedback. The UX of their driver control systems are unresponsive and require the driver to take their eyes from the road. The idea of self-driving cars is a pipe dream that solves zero problems and simply aggravates existing individual transport problems.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Counterpoints:

  • Cosmetic build quality issues aside, they require practically zero maintenance (tires and windshield fluid) and there are less moving parts to break. So far they've proven to be very reliable.
  • Driver feedback is subjective and I find your claim straight-up obtuse in meaning. I quite enjoy windy roads and the smoothness of the EV drivetrain.
  • The UX of my Tesla is practically-perfectly responsive and most of what you want to do has either physical or voice controls.
  • Autopilot is good bordering great but still needs work. FSD is indeed a pipe dream with the current fleet.
  • It's fast as fuck.
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol seriously? My passengers find the manual release by accident the first time they go to get out. It's exactly where you would expect it to be.

"Extra! Extra! Some people are idiots!"

Keep trying, bud.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Keep trying, bud.

What are you even doing on the FuckCars section of this site anyway? Do you want to be congratulated for your sunk-cost fallacy cope

"Extra! Extra! Some people are idiots!"

Some people say smug things like that, but then spend a lot of money on bad purchases and need to tell internet strangers that those bad purchases must be good purchases and any evidence to the contrary is from a bad source because it isn't a Tesla circlejerk in your favor. fry

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Cosmetic build quality issues aside, they require practically zero maintenance (tires and windshield fluid) and there are less moving parts to break. So far they've proven to be very reliable.

This applies to all electric cars, this isn't exclusive to Tesla. And other electric cars don't have panel gaps.

Driver feedback is subjective and I find your claim straight-up obtuse in meaning. I quite enjoy windy roads and the smoothness of the EV drivetrain.

The Tesla drives like an appliance, particularly in comparison to what are often considered "driver's cars". Nothing wrong with it, but don't expect car enthusiasts to like it.

The UX of my Tesla is practically-perfectly responsive and most of what you want to do has either physical or voice controls.

most

voice controls

Physical buttons are superior, and have been for decades. Voice controls and touchscreens are decisions made on a budget basis, not a UX basis, because they are objectively worse. It's corner-cutting, not improvement.

Autopilot is good bordering great but still needs work. FSD is indeed a pipe dream with the current fleet.

Are you calling Musk a liar?!? FSD has been coming "next year" for like six years now!!!

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[–] RegularGoose 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s fast as fuck.

Translates as: "I drive like an absolute cunt."

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did they fix the fact you can't open the door from the inside if the power is out without an instruction manual and fingernails?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

love too have my self driving software turn off seconds before my car slams into a semi truck going 100mph, so I can be blamed posthumously for not having enough personal responsibility

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fuck are you talking about? There is a regular-sized door handle right there.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only the front doors have a manual release. So what will your child in the back seat do in the situation of a crash, and the battery is compromised causing a loss of power and threat of combustion?

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_au/GUID-7A32EC01-A17E-42CC-A15B-2E0A39FD07AB.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh wow, I did not notice that. Now THAT is a problem.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Wait aren't you the one who actually owns one of these lithium sand buckets?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think it’s a cool feature tbh

[–] eestileib 1 points 1 year ago

Love your username.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

reddit's hivemind of "Teslas are shit cars"

Has reddit-logo really changed that much since a year ago? It was a massive endless circlejerk for the Church of E-L-O-N back then, up to and including "ironic" pictures of their lord and savior presented as a saint in antiquity-style paintings.

Are they awesome? IMO, yes.

https://carbuzz.com/news/tesla-admits-model-3-has-a-design-flaw

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

r/cars and other car "enthusiast" subs have been pretty anti-Tesla for quite some time, because Teslas aren't really anything approaching a "driver's car". They go fast in a straight line but have terrible feedback and handling.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

r/cars and other car "enthusiast" subs have been pretty anti-Tesla for quite some time

That must be the so-called circlejerk that the Tesla consoomer disapproves of because it isn't the logical rational Tesla circlejerk that was otherwise hoped for.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They are extremely mad that car people don't like Teslas, and they post angrily about it on Reddit every hour of every day. Fortunately, Tesla people aren't "car people" so there's really no real life friction other than Tesla dorks probably showing up to cars and coffee all over the nation and feeling personally offended when nobody gives half a shit about their commuter coffin.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That is kind of the funny thing about autos. Like most manufacturers are terrible in many ways. Environment, political, the way they treat people or how shitty their quality control is. Planned obsolescence. There is still a fake "supply demand" issue that they have literally concocted to jack prices through the roof. Literally price gouging asking 15k over MRSP because they pretend they have a supply issue lol.

All the US majors are in on this scam and it's sad we don't have a government worth a fuck to fight it..

Elon is just mouthy about it lol. I couldn't even tell you who the CEO of GMC is. They are awful as well tho.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem unique to car companies is that the Repubs are beholden to the car companies and the only unions big enough and worth a shit in the US is the UAW, and Democrats are beholden to anything they need.

So you literally can't do anything to regulate the industry without pissing off one or the other. The car companies will use any legislation raised against them to lay off union jobs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the UAW still a powerful union? Hasn’t it been mostly dismantled and destroyed by union busting and automation?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sure. Also Right-to-work legislation. Red States race to the bottom with worker protections.

Still the most powerful, tho.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Liberals downvoting a 100% based comment

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Did you think they were agreeing with you bazinga boy? Lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah; it’s very strange. The new online norm seems to be “don’t buy anything from a company if the primary person is a jerk.”

Meanwhile everyone online is buying stuff from jerks. They are just less vocal about it.

I REALLY don’t care to research every company I buy something from. Even if I know the primary person is a jerk, I still don’t care unless there is a near equal alternative.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

@GarfieldYaoi @const_void
When buying a car, you have a wide choice of shitty corporations to purchase from.