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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

I am so confused by all this. It makes me feel old.

Funko is essentialy just plastic, shitty Beanie Babies, right? They do nothing original, from what I can tell.

[–] [email protected] 191 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is actually just disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago

Straight outta the scummy debt collector playbook

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What in the actual removed?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Brother, you're gonna need to find a new instance if you wanna use bad words. Your comments get censored on .ml

[–] Dindonmasker 37 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Wait is that real? The word got automatically censored by something? wtf XD

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[–] [email protected] 179 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So, how much is Funko or their "partner" going to willingly pay Itch for their lost income? Or is there going to have to be a lawsuit?

[–] Sixtyforce 70 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Itch doesn't appear interested in suing unfortunately. I want them to, not because I'm bloodthirsty, but to set precedent that this wreckless use of AI content moderation isn't OK. I can imagine Disney and Nintendo following this.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don't know itch's daily profit, but I doubt a half day's will be enough to warrant a suit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It's likely more than you think

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My worry is that without a lawsuit or other action, we'll keep seeing LLM slop companies taking down smaller websites for bogus reasons. This needs to be codified somehow that there were damages done to Itch's earnings (and more importantly the earnings of the independent creators on the platform who should start a class-action suit), and that what Funko's contracted LLM company did was wrong.

There's financial damages, loss of profit, emotional distress, reputation loss, and more. We need to take action against these companies for their wrongdoing. So either they need to willingly pay up and have that payment be known and public, or they need to be made to pay by the courts.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Don’t worry false positives and AI go together like oil and fire.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Itch is by no means a small time player. Doing some very fast statistics off of the game price breakdowns available and the counts of games available vs. the number they rate as best sellers, if 20% of their best sellers make a sale each day and 7.5% of their non-best sellers make a sale each day, assuming an average price for the three pricing filters of (under $5, $2.5), ($5 to $15, $10), (over $15, $20), then Itch sells approximately $20k/day. Half a day is $10k. If those averages are actually much higher in their respective areas, as in just below the maximum then the daily total jumps to over $35k/day. There is wiggle room in my assumptions, but it is safe to say that Itch sees about $25k±7k/day.

As mentioned in other suits, there are nonmonetary damages as well which are harder to quantify without access to their analytics such as reputation damage, lost traffic, maintenance and repair from the forced outage at the domain level, etc. I could see a suit for $50k in actual damages and another $500k-$1M in punitive damages to send the message that this behavior is intolerable in general.

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Either Funko is lying or their "brand protection partner" is lying. Also, what the fuck does Funko have to protect? The only thing they actually created was those beady little eyes they put on everyone else's IP.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Funko and their "partner" should be fined for fraud.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Funko should shut down out of embarrassment. Not about this specifically, just because of their entire product line

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“We reached out to itch.io” aka we called his mom.

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[–] ayyy 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would be a real shame if [email protected] (the domain registrar of brandshield.com) were to get a bunch of reports about scams and illegal activity found on the website. Bonus points for copying [email protected].

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Make sure to link their actual site to since those all exist as redirect pages:

https://www.domainthenet.com/en/

This registrar is such hot garbage that it stinks of just one individual or group controlling the whole thing from the registrar level to the few domains they provide. Their contact form page won't even load for me.

continues to poke around

Oh what do you know, the registrar and "BrandShield" are run by the same guy

https://www.crunchbase.com/person/david-fridman

Sounds like the reports should go directly to ICANN for ignoring reports about domains on their registration list

Edit:

I would be remiss if I didn't include the other founders

https://www.crunchbase.com/person/yoav-keren

https://www.crunchbase.com/person/yuval-zantkeren

Who, again, all founded "Brandshield" at the same time they bought the rights from ICANN to make their own registrar, which appears to purely operate as a byproduct of "Brandshield"

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Apparently I've just shared in Funko Pop's passion for creativity.

Is this a different language that sounds deceptively like English? I feel like someone wrote this by running whale song through an LLM.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Funko: Hey, chatgpt... Write an apology letter to the gaming community about getting itch.io shut down. Something like "Sorry, we fucked up. Please don't hate us and continue to buy our stuff!" but make it sound like it came from an intern in HR.

Chatgpt: I got you fam...

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Bro, GhatGPT wrote a better apology:

Dear Community,

Look, we know we sell little plastic figures—not games, not platforms, not anything remotely digital—but somehow, we’ve managed to trip over our own shoelaces and knock something precious to all of you right off the shelf. Yes, we’re talking about itch.io, and yes, we understand the gravity of what happened.

We’re not going to sugarcoat it: we messed up. We’re not entirely sure how the dominoes fell this way, but somehow, through a series of unfortunate events (and probably some poorly-thought-out legal maneuvers), our actions have impacted an entire community that thrives on creativity and passion. That was never our intention, and it’s not who we want to be.

The truth is, we’re sitting here staring at our little figures, wondering how something so small can lead to such a big screw-up. We know this affects you, and we’re genuinely sorry for the frustration, confusion, and anger we’ve caused.

We don’t expect forgiveness overnight, but please know we’re working hard to make this right. We’re talking to the people who actually know what they’re doing (because, let’s face it, we clearly don’t), and we’re committed to doing better moving forward.

We value this community more than you realize, even if we’ve done a poor job of showing it. Thank you for your patience, and we hope you’ll give us the chance to earn back your trust—not just with our figures, but with our actions.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's good, but it's too negative. The PR folks would never let it fly.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago

We reached out the admin of Itch.io's mother and made threats against her.

That's the real situation.

Funko is a corrupt, evil company.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The sad thing I cant do anything more to hurt funko as I've never bought their stupid little dolls

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