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Reddit Migration

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Interested in getting a feel for what people may be likely to do IF reddit reverses their decision regarding API access, or reduces access fees to a reasonable level and 3rd party apps remain sustainable.

While I know the chances of this are extreeeemely slim, until 1st July there is an ever so slight chance this could still happen.

From my perspective, the community harm is done, and those who have left prior to July 1 have left due to principles, not because their app stopped working. As such, I'd be inclined to think most of those migrators would stay here in the fediverse.

But would we see a mass exodus back to reddit if the changes were undone? It's easy to say no, but if it went back to operations as relatively normal, it may be easy to justify going back for some users.

I'd like to think I wouldn't go back. I've deleted content and account from reddit. I'll be happy here so long as there is enough userbase for some discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Will they? I lost any trust I have with spez and the admins.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I will stay here, I deleted my Reddit Accounts anyway. And if u/spez role model really is Musk, there will be no revert to the change.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The damage is done and the reddit project has failed. Reddit wil die the slow death of the abandoned, slowly losing relvance over time.

I think many reddit users have been curious about the fedverae, but nor ready to move. Or ready to put in the effort to learn. This certainly describes me. Reddit's actions were the push I needed.

So now we build something new and exciting. Reddit will just become the place we talk about in the greybeard threads a few years from now. That site we used to know.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Why would I do anything? It's more about the admins' behavior than about the API changes at this point. Even if they undo the API changes, they can't undo the last week of assholery.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

There's no going back, I can't wait to see Reddit filled with loads of low quality content

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't see that a reversal at this point would be any different to Twitter suddenly becoming usable again. The damage has already been done, it can't be reversed. Even with a pinky swear that Reddit will never pull this shit again, the trust is gone. Just like with Twitter - Elon could f*** off to Mars tomorrow, but the next person to step in and run Twitter could be just as bad, or worse. And both companies can implement any changes they like at any time with zero worry about what happens to the users. Thus - it's the wake-up call we all needed, that someone else's platform is really someone else's platform - regardless of how long we have had a home there. It's time for own platform, a community run platform.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Reddit has been so transparently awful in handling this whole situation that I wouldn't go back. I can only imagine something similar would happen again not too far in the future anyway, regardless if they were to reverse their decision with the API.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I just landed here, so time will tell. I think a lot of damage has been done and most of it by the toxic way spez has dealt with this. He’d have to step down to really make progress in healing things. I like the idea of a decentralized community that one person can’t fuck up. So, I want to give this an honest try.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Keep on with not using reddit.

They can pound sand for all I care.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m in the process of abandoning my Reddit account. I abandoned my Twitter a little while before the Muskening and once it became finalized I really didn’t want to go back, but I kind of regret not saving more memes/screenshots so I’m making sure to actually archive things this time.

I don’t want to go back. The fediverse has everything and more; I would like to think that we can keep up this wonderful sense of community here. Meanwhile the toxicity on Reddit has gotten even worse.

It’s like having the opportunity to have an amicable separation from a toxic ex.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I want to avoid enshitification, and enshitification is more or less the ultimate goal of those who own reddit. This isn't the first time they've tried to extract value from the site with utter disregard for users and moderators. If they didn't get their way this time, they'll just try again later. Perhaps more politely or more slowly, but the writing is on the wall. Has been for a while.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm done with reddit. It has become too big and has accumulated too much dead weight.

The AI will finish the job as I predict that Reddit will transform into an astroturfing hub. ( /m/astroturfing is open btw)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'll stay here for sure, just need to find the courage to delete my account for good. Ten cent investment never agreed with me anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

To be perfectly honest - I’ll likely stay here for content that typically ends up in large subs. Programming, World News, Politics, Ask _? That’s pretty well covered here.

But I’d use my third party app of choice to check in on subs that haven’t really taken off here yet. I haven’t had a decent conversation about One Piece yet on this platform. The Colts magazine equally dead. Game specific magazines and conversations are not very active here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Reddit needs more revenue. They're not profitable, and never have been. The only means they have for getting that revenue is manipulating me so that I watch more ads, or selling my content to others without my explicit consent.

Which means I'm done with Reddit, and for-profit social media, forever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Does not matter if they revert the changes or not at this point. I found a new home here and will keep using it.
I will still keep my reddit-Account and do the same as with my FB-account: Visit the site once a month to check up on the one or two communities that unfortunately stayed there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I really have no choice. I’m primarily a mobile user via 3rd party app because their native app sucks in so many different ways. In fact, I replied to this very thread from my phone.

When the API gets cut off, I get cut off because I don’t—nor won’t—live in front of my computer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Staying right where I am.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm new enough to not have experienced old.reddit so most of my experiences are from the new interface on computer. With that said, the new reddit is crap.

  1. It is sooooo slow. My computer isn't lacking by any means, but infinity on my old pixel phone is still much faster. I don't understand how this is even possible.

  2. The comment box is broken. I can't tell how many times the comment box malfunctioned either in formatting or in other ways after I copy pasted text into it. If copying text makes things buggy, then something is wrong. Not to mention that less frequently, I've clicked on submit after writing a long post just to have it vanish into thin air.

  3. I'm with the moderators for the API issue, but my experiences with moderation there wasn't the best. Inconsistency between different mods, etc. That is a thankless job for sure, and the same problems could come up here or lemmy or anywhere else as the communities grow, but here's hoping that we learn from past mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

new enough to not have experienced old.reddit

But old Reddit is still around!? Just go to old.reddit.com or change the setting to make it your default.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’m having fun on here and the apps (memmy for me) have been working great so far, so there’s practically no difference for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I left Reddit for good, I deleted my account. Maybe I will occasionally check Libreddit/Teddit if that will be possible. But my Reddit feed became pretty boring in the last weeks, many people left, many subs are still protesting.

Yet I’m not fully convinced that Kbin/Lemmy is the answer for me. I’m questioning if the whole social news aggregator is what I want.

Currently I’m mostly reading Hacker News.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm gone for good. I've been looking for good alternatives for a long while. I really don't agree with what reddit has done, but I'm glad they did it. Because it created the desire for so many to seek change. Reddit has been a cesspool for a long while.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I like the fediverse but the centralised nature of reddit is much less confusing. Really I would probably see where the communities are and stay wherever is most convenient. If Reddit did undo their changes then the chances are a few communities might move back to reddit or stay there, and the app devs may also cancel plans to make other fediverse clients, so it would be a tricky decision for me in my mind.

Reddit is the community more than it is the site in my mind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Reddit can eat my cheeks. Every time I open the app now there’s some sponsored post or dumb thing that makes me hate if.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nice try spez, I'm not telling you what my plans are

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This reminds me a bit of Wizards Of the Coast. As a MTG and D&D player, I experienced multiple times the company treating the player base like shit, getting flak, crawling back, and repeating this over and over. At some point I figured I'm an idiot for accepting their remorse - they are constantly trying to see what they can get away with, and the only sensible response is an irrevocable ban.

From my perspective, Spez's response to the community is unforgivable - there is no amount of crawling back that will appease me - I have no intent in continuing to invest my time and effort in a platform that I believe will continue to try to get away with what they can, just like WOTC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Personally, I'm loving Lemmy for what it is and I'm here for the long haul whether or not I continue to scroll Reddit on occasion.

If they roll back, it will be temporary until they fix their app. But this is happening. Either way. If they roll back and start this mess all over again then Lemmy will get a fresh influx of users in a few months which would be fantastic as it will give the communities time to settle in and apps to develop before then. (Sync has already announced it will be developing for Lemmy going forward). If they don't roll back, then Lemmy will get a second boost in a few weeks and the developer of Sync can continue uninterrupted.

Either way its a win for Lemmy, but I imagine at this point Reddit's best move is to stick to their guns and become what they want to become. Good for them. I don't really care .

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

After Steve's behavior and treatment of the mods and developers, I wouldn't go back if they paid me. Even in the best case scenarios, they can't undo the damage that's already been done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'll probably go back from time to time to:

  1. Demonstrate that them reversing course wasn't for naught
  2. Steal content to post here to help foster communities/magazines until the next idiotic decision that drives users away

Ultimately, this is my new home. But I'm not against swiping content to furnish it with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Im using reddit to look at boobs, fediverse for everything else.
When the reddit boobs dry up, ill look elsewhere.

I figure it cant hurt if its purely NSFW. They dont make ad revenue from it, I get to see boobs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I won’t return to Reddit. In my case the bridge is burned.

I deleted all my comments/posts and will only keep my account in case you need one sometime in the future to read stuff. Otherwise it will be used to block my old username.

Except for reading specific stuff when I’m googling for solutions I’m not going to use Reddit anymore. Since the blackout the number of posts increased so heavily that I don’t experience much difference to Reddit. Except one thing: The people here are much less toxic!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No Reddit has been getting worse for the past few years already. If they were to reverse the decision now, it would probably only be temporary anyway, until they find a new way to increase monetization.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The damage is done. The administration at Reddit has shown they will do whatever it takes to stamp out dissent... except for actually listen to the users.

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