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In downtown Seattle, total office vacancy is now around 35%, according to commercial real estate firm CBRE, and rents are softening. That’s even worse than during the Great Recession, when downtown Seattle office vacancy reached around 21%.

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[–] ZombiFrancis 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

even worse than during the Great Recession,

The difference is all the working is being done without the need for those offices.

[–] pelespirit 2 points 2 hours ago

The difference is all the working is being done without the need for those offices.

That's been always the case though, they were forced to reckon with it.

[–] pelespirit 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's been a lot of construction around the country, I wonder how other cities are faring. They're even talking about changing some of these buildings to residential through urban planning. Is this the start of the bubble popping?

[–] kersploosh 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seattle's situation may change once Amazon starts enforcing their full-time return-to-office policy in 2025. I expect other companies will follow suit. Though in the mean time there is more room for the office market to fall; another Seattle Times article from August mentioned:

Seattle’s downtown is now second only to San Francisco’s for risk of office loan foreclosures, according to a recent analysis by Kaplan Group, a debt collection firm, which warns that high-risk cities “could see a wave of loan defaults or even localized fire sales.”

I would love to see some of that empty office space convert to other uses. Every city's office/retail core feels soulless if nobody lives there, or even has a reason to go there after 5pm.

[–] pelespirit 1 points 3 hours ago

I don't wish the market to full on pop, but a mini pop would be nice. You can't build, build, build, price fix and then expect to have a nice city that people can or want to live in.