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Elon Musk Rehires Entire Supercharger Team After Halting Development by Firing Them - Glass Almanac (glassalmanac.com)

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This story is 7 months old, the team was rehired back in may. Why is this story popping up again as if it's new?

Less than a week after the layoffs, Tesla began rehiring members of the Supercharger team, signaling a quick reversal of the initial decision.

The inside story of Elon Musk’s mass firings of Tesla Supercharger staff:
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/inside-story-elon-musks-mass-firings-tesla-supercharger-staff-2024-05-15/

May 16, 2024 12:12 AM GMT+2Updated 7 months ago

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Its to reinforce this egghead is not special. He just proclaimed no one has more manufacturing knowledge than he does. Sure, thats why you fire whole teams just to rehire them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I 100% agree on that, Musk is not special, and Tesla isn't either anymore. The only thing special about Musk is an exaggerated ego, loads of privileges, and being lucky to grab the right opportunity twice.
First with PayPal, and then with Tesla. Everything else is running at losses. With PayPal he was actually thrown out for being incompetent!

As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day. And being born filthy rich as a son to an owner of an emerald mine. The great thing is you don't have to worry much about failing. Your life is secure even if you fail multiple times. Everything is just a game to those people.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I forget who it was, but there was some movie star in the 90s. Maybe Jim Carry, but maybe someone else.

In any event, when they asked how he was able to get his star power noticed, and achieve the things he had in movies, he replied "I was stupid, I made mistakes, and I failed. Repeatedly failed. Everybody in this business has some stupid commercial, or failed play that they look back on relieved that those days are behind them. But the thing is, when your family is rich, and can support you failing, you aren't afraid of failing. You learn from your failures. Your failures get you noticed, and that's when you get oppertunities you haven't earned. Just by being in the business, and having a safety net without fear of failing. There may be 1000 more people more talented than I am, but I'm MUCH dumber, and also not afraid to take the leap. Because if I fall short, it's ok. I still live in a mansion, and have no way to actually be affected by my failures."

I'm paraphrasing, but that's essentially what was said. I remember being 11, and thinking "Wait, he's saying that the only reason he's sucsessful is because he was born into a situation where even if he fails, it's not going to affect him? But that means those other actors who are more talented won't even be seen, and we're being deprived of better performances. Simply because if they fail, they're homeless. So it's smarter for them to take a factory job and be stable, than make a high risk gamble and likely be homeless."

I can't say for sure that's the day I became cynical, but it's definately a motivating factor. Essentially being taught from an early age "There's in groups who can't fail, and out groups who the system is stacked against. Fall into the wrong group just by being born, and you're going to have a hard life, and that's by design."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

It’s crazy how the bar is so low that when I hear someone rich be honest about how they only succeeded because they were rich, I respect them more

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Jim Carrey was famously homeless for a time before he made his break in In Living Color. I have doubts that these are his words.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sadly this is all true. Which is why most parents want their kids to take an education in something they can safely fall back on. Then others say that's setting yourselves up for failure.
Obviously it's also an extra hurdle, and not all even have that option.

When Mitt Romney was running for president, and he was recorded saying that the poor felt entitled, I got absolutely fucking furious. The ones that feel entitled are the rich, they think they DESERVE to have more than a factory worker working 2 jobs to get buy. They think they DESERVE to have the best medical treatments, the best education, the best houses and everything else.
I'm not a communist, but we seriously need to have fortunes taxed, and the higher the fortune the higher the tax. And TAX shelters must not be allowed. If you live in a TAX shelter, it should mean no access to the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well.....yes and no. I agree with the overall message you're trying to convay, but will come back on the small details.

The rich feel that they should be entitled to the best healthcare, education, housing, ect. And I think they do. However I also think that's true of the poor as well.

Not only should we all be deserving of the best life, we should also be increasing what that that means. Improving what the best is, and yhen THAT then becomes what we all get.

If a rich person gets cancer, or breaks their leg, or whatever. I feel like saying they DON'T deserve the best health care is obscene. Not because they're rich, but because they're human.

Same with education.

Housing it's a bit more broad strokes, as "best" in this catagory is a little less defined. There's a youtube video by ryan george where he looks at rich people houses, and mocks some of the homes features. Some of these houses have things for the sole purpose of wasting money. Like a 19 foot golden statue of a man throwing balls in the air, with a matching water fountain, so the water being sprayed up looks like it's part of the force he's throwing the balls.

That's just money spent for the sake of spending money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You are making an extreme and false equivalence.
The difference is that the rich is getting it at the cost of others.
The rich feel entitled to have privileges way above what others have.
Ordinary people just want to be treated fairly and humanely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is a straw man. No one said poor people should have better healthcare than rich people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think SpaceX is profitable too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

OK maybe it is, I tried to find out, they had pretty massive deficits 2021 and 2022, but are estimated to have turned a profit in 2023.
But since then there have been a lot of delays and failures with Starship.
So I'm not sure they will be profitable for 2024, But being a privately held company, we can't know for sure. So I admit I can't claim they are running deficits.

[–] hydrashok 29 points 2 weeks ago

Truly, the king of efficiency. Dumbass.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

At least he's living by his own principle on this one:

If you’re not adding back at least 10% of what you remove, you’re not removing enough.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

It's not a "surprising turn of events" as the article claims. Elon Musk is a fucking moron with money he did nothing to earn but threaten people. He threatened and fired an entire team, and LO, they were actually doing their jobs and he was mad because he continues to over promise on shit other people are doing.

More specific to this case: self-driving on cameras alone without depth perception is not possible now-if at all. That's why Waymo was first to multiple markets with lidar systems, and their cars are not killing people, but just stupid and inefficient.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Manufacturing genius. Absolute clairvoyant in terms of business and efficiency.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Musk’s abrupt firing of the team initially seemed like a display of power—a way to assert control and show he could make tough decisions in the face of investor pressure.

This is justification for wrecking 500 employee's lives? So he could show he's a tough business boy? In order to reassure people who've gotten over 50% returns for a decade? In a company that's "worth" more than the GDP of Saudi Arabia?

Investor confidence is so important to Musk because he knows Tesla is a bubble.

[–] JohnWorks 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I’m pretty sure it was mainly to get rid of the exec that was leading the supercharger team because from what I remember she was doing a really good job and didn’t listen to him when he told her to lay people off or something. She was the reason NACS became a standard in the US. Really bad call on his end but hey gotta keep the ego big somehow.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The article is giving Elmo far too much credit in there, and downplaying the long-term effect. If I were looking at making my EVs compatible with their system, I would be scrambling for alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Very true.

Also, if I were thinking about starting to work for one of Musk's companies, then such stupidities would make me think thrice.

I am sure that many of the best people in the world will never ever work for him, because of such examples. And he will never know it.