this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2023
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The largest piracy community is hosted over at [email protected]

lemmy.world has blocked it. It appears to have also blocked [email protected].

If this is a problem for you, I'd suggest migrating accounts using LASIM to an instance that doesn't block it (such as lemm.ee).

edit:

An official announcement has been made:

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm really not a fan of the lw admins just blocking communities. It's not the first time either. It's even worse than defederating, because there's no record of it.

I signed up to lw on its almost first day, but with some of these policies, and constant downtimes, looks like I'll be moving. It's a bummer I've created all the communities here before lw became so big.

[–] Madbrad200 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just FYI but you can mod users on other instances to your communities on lemmy.world.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I know, I just wish they were more diversified. When I was starting, I wasn't expecting Lemmy to take off like this, so I didn't care much at the time. Now it sucks especially due to the server downtimes.

[–] Blaze 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy is still young. If you move your community now, pin an announcement on top with a link to the new one, and lock the old one, you'll probably have almost everyone following you. I did it for one of my communities, the subscribers number of the new one is almost identical to the old one.

It might be better to do it now than in a few weeks/months when your communities are much larger.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's super lame and disappointing. Democracy my ass, the users didn't vote for this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bit of a newbie question here: is lemmy a democracy or just a federation?

Or to put it another way, do I vote with my upvotes or only with my choice in which members of the fediverse I connect with?

[–] can 5 points 1 year ago

Depends on who runs the instance. On mine we actually vote on this kind of thing.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Together with their recent removal of a community focused on shrooms, lemmy.world is starting to seem excessively puritanical for my tastes.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

same.

I'm not a child. Stop treating me like it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you know where did that community move to?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Well, lemmy.world has shown their hand. They don't seem to have any consistent defederaion or content policy other than "whatever they feel like."

Abandoning my lw account and switching to lemm.ee now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

About lemm.ee . . . it's a great instance, no doubt, but maybe not the safe haven you think it is. The rules there leave the option of blocking "illegal content" and users/instances that post it wide open.

Excerpted from the Administration and federation policy on lemm.ee (the bold is their own):

Our rules apply even when you’re posting in a community on another instance. For example, this means that you’re not allowed to post advertisement spam using your lemm.ee account on any other instance (even if that other instance has no rules).

Admins:
Purge illegal content from lemm.ee
Ban lemm.ee users who break our rules on other instances

I don't like to piss in other peoples' Wheaties, just trying to save you and others some trouble. If you're looking to change to a piracy-friendly instance that will remain so regardless of how "illegal content" is defined at any particular moment, lemm.ee might not be it.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Super lame lemmy.world, I hope this decision can be reversed.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought we escaped this bullshit here.

[–] can 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We did! Move to a better instance.

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[–] Eeyore_Syndrome 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Me on sh.itjust.works still enjoying these posts 🥹

[–] Madbrad200 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly I feel like transferring to shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I tried signing up for shit but it gave me an error and I never got a verification email. Tried again and it said my email exists, so tried logging in but still invalid credentials 🫠

Same thing happened with lemmy.tf this morning!

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I get it cuz corpos be sue happy lately but at least it shows the Federation's strength: simply having another account routes around the problem.

If this was reddit it'd be gone for good.

But here it's just a mild inconvenience.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe I’m misunderstanding this, but there’s nothing stopping anyone from having logins in either place. Using Voyager, for instance, I can have multiple logins on multiple servers with the same app.

[–] brockpriv 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's annoying having to create logins on multiple instances. I always forget passwords and have to remember which servers i have accounts.

For example i had an account on one of the "lemmy. something" instance, but they defederated from shit.justworks so i created an account there. I changed phone and i relogged in from shitjjustworks but forgot what was my other login. And now do i have to create a new one to access the piracy one?

I wish there was one Lenny instance i could create an access and have access to the entirety of lemmy, without having to bother

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

First off, you should be using a password manager. This is probably a good opportunity to get into the habit.

I wish there was one Lenny instance i could create an access and have access to the entirety of lemmy, without having to bother

Any small instance will probably never be defederated by anybody else unless they're focused on something controversial.

[–] Madbrad200 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I always forget passwords

Use a password manager! it takes me literally less than 30 seconds to generate a password (and username if you want) make a new account and save the password

I'd rec BitWarden

The workflow is so much better than relying on your own passwords

I wish there was one Lenny instance i could create an access and have access to the entirety of lemmy, without having to bother

That's most of them honestly. lemm.ee doesn't really block anyone for example. The only major instance that blocks sh.itjust.works is beehaw.org, but they block a significant amount of instances.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I mean its not their fault for trying to be proactive with this site gaining so much online traction. People are complaining, but they posted the named instances!!!!! They know its bullshit but they were like hey just go here and make a new account! It wouldve been different if they done this quietly.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really don't get what's going on with lemmy.world blocking communities like this. Without the threat of loss of ad revenue what is to be gained from blocking communities exercising free speech?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lower risk of lawsuits, especially frivolous ones

[–] Quacksalber 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that is why the way federation works right now needs a rethink. Users should be able to access content not cached by their home servers, so that the servers can defederate and don't get into hot water for content from federated instances.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Scared of legal actions against them.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seriously don't understand what would lead some otherwise ordinary people who happened to start a lemmy instance that happened to become the biggest one from blocking a community the mere existence of which on their servers could lead to them getting sued into bankruptcy by some multinational corporation?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Wtf I'm out LW

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Haha power trip feels good it seems. The bane of fediverse existence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guess I’ll be going to a different instance so I can continue my security research. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Where is safe of this defederation?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And this is the beauty of the fediverse right here: an instance decides it doesn't want some specific content doesn't mean the community dies. It just lives on on another instance.

Once these services can operate on the darknet like I2P (which supports anonymous torrenting btw), then things might really pick up steam.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Wtf. Just give them a warning or something. Even reddit still had a piracy community.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That’s the instance I’m on, what was the reason they blocked it?

[–] Madbrad200 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's possibly a reaction to this post but there hasn't been an announcement yet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Based on community reaction I don't feel like its been banned just yet. More like bungiefan made a fool of himself, mods banned him, and locked the thread.

Edit: just searched, not showing up. Would like at least some clarification from admins/staff on what the reasoning was.

Edit 2: Left this reply in Lemmy.world's discord server:

I feel it needs to be addressed. It looks bad on world to take this action without publicly stating a reason, especially considering the clear answers it gave for more malicious communities

[–] Madbrad200 5 points 1 year ago

It's no longer accessible via lemmy.world, whether that post is the cause or not it's definitely been blocked from lemmy.world.

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