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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Now ban parents posting pictures of their children under 16.

I DGAF about your kids.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I DGAF about your kids.

Preach!

One of the craziest wtf moment of my life resulted from an oversharing parent.

At a hot summer day a few years back someone posted a picture of them barbequing in their backyard to our company's "off topic" teams chat. Nothing unusual. I was over at a friends place so I send back a picture of us sitting in lawnchairs having a beer. In comes the third colleague, first time father with a roughly 1.5 year old at the time. So he posts a picture of his kid running around in his backyard. Completly naked, full frontanl nudity.

It took me a minute to recollect and I messaged him to please take down the picture. I know he didn't mean any harm and was just sharing his hot-summer-weekend expirence ... and he did realise his blunder and took it down. But wtf mate?

After that I immediately googled how to clear my teams' app image cache ...

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The fact that people even considered this with a straight face, discussed it and passed it is just indicative how tech illiterate we've become.

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 2 days ago (2 children)

teen go to website

please enter your birthdate

1/1/2000

welcome!

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 4 points 1 day ago

I'm well old enough to satisfy these checks and I also do this. If I'm feeling productive, I'll pick a random date.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lawyer sues tech company

But we asked for the birthday

Lawyer points to law text

Company fined

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I don't see many options between asking for a birthdate and asking for ID for this problem. I don't see any way that this can be enforced that isn't problematic.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Pssst! Hey kid, wanna buy some memes?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I support this move. Some here are delusionally arguing that this impacts privacy - the sort of data social media firms collect on teenagers is egregiously extensive regardless. This is good support for their mental health and development.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is good support for their mental health and development.

This is good pseudo-science.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

How can you look at the state of things pretty much everywhere since social media has become so ubiquitous and think that it has no effect on people, young people especially? It's full of hate, envy, propaganda, and brainwashing

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

As of now, there hasn't been a formal ban in Australia on social media for individuals under 16 years old, but there have been growing discussions about stricter regulations on social media usage, particularly for minors. Concerns around online safety, mental health, and privacy for young users have led to calls for platforms to enforce stricter age restrictions and introduce more safeguards for children and teenagers.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Now everyone gets to hand over their ids to the tech companies.

[–] Quacksalber 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We should make a bet how long it will take before the ID databases get leaked.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago

Australia requires mobile phone providers to verify IDs before providing cell phone service. As a result, in September 2022, Optus leaked the records of 10 million Australians including passport and drivers license details.

So negative 2 years, 2 months.

But this is just asking for more.

[–] taladar 38 points 2 days ago

It would take too long.

Making the bet that is, it would be leaked before you are done setting up the betting system.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

performative nonsense which does nothing for kids or their mental health and harms queer kids who lose one of the first places they can find community.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Then it seems there is something other to fix in society than making sure facebook knows anything about that kid.

The Zuckerbergers of the world aren't the ones to trust with that.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The ban and age verification requirements apply to pretty much all services which allow communication of information between people, unless an exemption is granted by the minister.

There is no legislated exemption for instant messaging, SMS, email, email lists, chat rooms, forums, blogs, voice calls, etc.

It's a wildly broadly applicable piece of legislation that seems ripe to be abused in the future, just like we've seen with anti-terror and anti-hate-symbol legislation.

From 63C (1) of the legislation:

For the purposes of this Act, age-restricted social media platform means:

  • a) an electronic service that satisfies the following conditions:
    • i) the sole purpose, or a significant purpose, of the service is to enable online social interaction between 2 or more end-users;
    • ii) the service allows end-users to link to, or interact with, some or all of the other end-users;
    • iii) the service allows end-users to post material on the service;
    • iv) such other conditions (if any) as are set out in the legislative rules; or
  • b) an electronic service specified in the legislative rules; but does not include a service mentioned in subsection (6).

Here's all the detail of what the bill is and the concerns raised in parliament.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is just abstinence education all over again

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I always wear a condom when I log into Facebook, so I should be safe

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (8 children)

the rules are expected to apply to the likes of Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, and TikTok, per the Prime Minister.

Sites used for education, including YouTube, would be exempt, as are messaging apps like WhatsApp. 

The law does not require users to upload government IDs as part of the verification process.

Sounds like a pretty weak law. It will require a birthday when creating an account and accounts under the age of 16 will be restricted/limited. As a result users (people under 16) will lie about their age.

Companies don't like this because it messes with their data collection. If they collect data that proves an account is under 16 they will be required to make them limited/restricted. However they obviously collect this data already.

I wonder if Facebook and other apps will add/push education elements in order to become exempt.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

China Video Game Ban v2.0: Electric Boogaloo

Parents should be parenting, not delegate their responsibilities to a nanny state.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (16 children)

That would require us paying one parent enough to cover the other parent being a child care expert. But nobody gets to profit off of that so fuck society, everybody works, and nobody gets community goods except the wealthy.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Well that's not going to work out.

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