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Spotify Disables Modified Apps, Users Unable To Access App (www.ndtv.com)

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[–] ilovededyoupiggy 2 points 3 hours ago

Can still use Spicetify on desktop?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

On mobile i use mutify, which simply mutes audio whenever an ad starts. Dead simple and works like a charm!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

Same but different. I use spotube.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

This is why 20 years ago we had CDs and ripped them to hard drives. Streaming is a sham when you pay continually for access.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

I pirate basically everything, but streaming music isn't a sham. You pay for the catalogue and the recommendation feed. Getting anything close to an actual streaming platforms variety and convenience through piracy is hard and frankly not worth the effort.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

TIL: 20 years ago was just yesterday. Go buy CDs! They still make them!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

My whole music library is local and DRMless. I find CDs highly impractical in the age of cheap high-capacity storage. I would rip them anyway, as using normal copies is just far more convenient, after which they'd need to either waste space, be resold or be thrown out. If I were insistent on paying and there was no DRMless option, I'd rather buy a DRMed copy corresponding to the one I downloaded.

[+] [email protected] -17 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Of course, but it's worth pointing out that PCs phased out the addition of ROM drives, which allowed the layperson to rip their content. Naturally, this allowed Apple and ilk to introduce streaming access, as though it was a fucking boon. No CD/DVD-Rom, no ports, just an enshittified processor, display, and a cloud. Because THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TELLING YOU YOU WANT.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Enshittified processor? What are you talking about? Processors are vastly better than they used to be, have much wider functionality, and they're cheaper than they used to be.

Screens are so much better than they used to be that I feel like you're trolling. Do you want to go back to shitty smeary 16:9 768p TN panels with terrible accuracy, viewing angles, refresh rates, contrast, huge light bleed? Because I sure don't.

PCs got rid of disc drives because nobody used them and they used up a huge amount of space.

USB disc drives exist. They are cheap. There's nothing stopping you from using CDs.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

They may be, but you're missing the larger perspective by harping about the processor.

When the technology was ubiquitous, it didn't require specialized equipment ie USB disc drives, because the necessary gear was already built in. Which means more people had access and more sharing was happening.

Of course there's nothing stopping ME, I already know about CDs. But ask the average teenager where they get their music. Ask them how they would share an album. Do any amount of critical thinking about this, and my original premise holds true. But nah, you'll probably revert back to internally screaming that some guy on the internet insulted your processor speed, because THAT is the point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

When the technology was ubiquitous, it didn't require specialized equipment ie USB disc drives, because the necessary gear was already built in

That gear is necessary for a vanishingly small subset of PC users. It makes absolutely no sense to put them in PCs anymore. As a child of the 80s, you're reminding me very much of the people that decried the advent of the CD, and pined for the days of vinyl dominance. I'm guessing you think cars should still come with tape decks too.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago

People stopped ripping CDs and instead started downloading them (legally) via iTunes or (illegally) via napster or similar software more than a decade before disc drives became obsolete. Even the launch of Spotify predates the removal of disc drives from mainstream PCs/laptops.

Also, teenagers still know about CDs. They just don’t see a reason to use them and to some degree, I agree. While not having to worry about monthly payments and availability of your own library, music discovery has never been easier. I don’t want to buy a whole album from an artist that has maybe one good song. I also want to be able to listen to whatever song comes to mind, whenever it does. I don’t want to be limited by the CDs I have in my collection or whatever my friends might be able to send me.

With my shared family subscription to a streaming service, I can listen to whatever song I like, whenever I like for the price of 4 CDs a year. And I’m definitely adding more than 4 albums to my library every year.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, then everyone stopped using it. Disc drives were on PCs for years after people stopped using them. People took the piss out of new systems with them. It'd be like laptops coming with 5.25" floppy readers.

You're the one displaying a lack of thinking here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

My newer laptop doesn't have a CD drive and I never once felt the need to use it. Why do so if an external SSD fits multiple times more data, takes up less space and is rewriteable?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I pay to continually rip music from them, best of both worlds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

You wouldn't be able to point me in the direction to learn about such things, would you?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's much cheaper if you have a varied taste though.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

lol, ok. You do realize that if you OWN your media you can just hand over a thumbdrive or send the files directly to a friend? CDs are also cheap to burn. You can build an entire library for the cost of a couple months' streaming access.

You are parroting marketing and those words are hollow.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Sure you could do all that but that depends on your friends having the same music taste and also seems like a pain over just paying a few bucks. Ripping CDs is also pretty damn annoying.

I currently have 6728 liked songs on Spotify. Assuming the average album is around 11 songs per album that would be slightly more than 611 albums. CD albums seem to cost anywhere between 100 and 300 kr, so lets say they cost 150 kr.

150 kr * 611 = 91 650 kr.
Spotify Premium is 116 kr per month.
91 650 / 116 ≈ 770.
770 / 12 ≈ 64 years.

Could I get many of those albums used? Yeah probably.
Could I borrow a few disks from friends? Yeah maybe.
Could I even find all the albums in my country? No, I would have to. import some of the more niche ones.
Could I pirate them? Yeah, sure but that would be very very time consuming and illegal (not that I care about the last part) and we aren't discussing piracy anyways.

With all that in mind lets just half the amount of years (fairly generously). It's still a long ass time and the time and monetary invesment it would take to procure all these disks would be that it would very high. My time is also worth something and doing that seems like a gigantic waste of time I could be spending actually listening to music.

I don't give a jack shit if I don't own the media afterwards. I'm paying for a service and I get a service. I don't see the problem.

If you don't think it's worthwhile to you then just don't use it.

You are parroting Lemmy nonsense and those words are hollow.

P.S. If I am gonna burn CDs why not just pirate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I would find having all my music on streaming EXTREMELY inconvenient. Not only can you lose access to some of it, not only are you paying continuously, but you're also locked to a specific player for this all. I do use streaming, but only for discovering new tracks. I do have a bigger collection on streaming - the tracks I like but not particularly so - but the main collection is just more convenient to have locally. I didn't download it all at once so no inconvenience here - just download a song as soon as I realize I like it enough.

Also even if I could afford to pay for my media, I'd rather buy digital DRMed downloads rather than CDs if DRMless aren't available. Not to actually use, but to correspond to the copy I do use. Specifically because it's indeed impractical, can be hard to get and and will be ripped anyway.

[–] GhiLA 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

people on the sidelines who just downloaded 20 albums from SoulSeek

"You guys should argue more"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 minutes ago

TBH I mostly get mine from Youtube, although have recently tried Soulseek.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 hours ago

I ain't the fuckface whisperer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm still able to use spotube without a plan, and no ads.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Spotube shows Spotify playlists but uses YouTube music for streaming.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Funny how that works.

And I can download the songs, too.

A big middle finger to both of them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

In all fairness, I wouldn't even pirate YouTube music. Recommendations are shit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

The client APK that I'm running appears unaffected.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Still working on my end, but don't know for how long, if they kill it, it might be the time I pass to tidal or say fuck it and just start using again my old mp3 player app

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I think they are fine with that since you presumably don't pay then anyways. You just cost them money.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And I'm perfectly fine costing them money, I would pay, were they not enshittifying music streaming and paying peanuts to the artists.

Actually, I might try and find a new patch if they block this one to keep costing them money out of spite.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, sure free is nice. But complaining about it imo comes across as pretty selfish.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Whac-a-mole.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Is that like guac-a-mole?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Grab a few moles...
Axe a knife into their stones...
Twist the knife to get rid of those...
Remove the moleskin with a spoon...
6, 7, 8, GUAC!!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Revanced :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Remember folks you are paying your enemy to fuck you...

then do pika face...

maybe learn the lesson: corpo is your enemy, don't pay them UNLESS THEY EARNED IT.

these slop cloud services are really stepping out of line and there is a solution that's better anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

you been playing a lot of cyberpunk, choom?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

Blaze way down the rebel path! Death to corpos.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

never got into it tbh... but i am aligned on the thesis!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Hah you were just using some of the game’s lingo

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 hours ago

i played enough haha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's ridiculous.

They only fucked with people that didn't pay them and pirated their apps.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They only fucked with people that didn't pay them and pirated their apps.

I trust you bro. Either way spotify has been enshitifying either way like the rest of them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the article.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

i trust that bro?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

I was referring to the fact that you are discussing completely unrelated stuff like it was related.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

lol goodluck