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[–] [email protected] 331 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The real issue is already going 3 months without source control.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 6 days ago (7 children)

I have heard things from another apprentice who just does not use version control at all and the only copies are on his laptop and on his desktop. He is also using node.js with only 1 class and doesn't know about OOP (not sure if you even use that in js no clue πŸ˜…) and has one big file with 20k lines of code I have absolutely no clue how he navigates through it

[–] [email protected] 83 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I know the type. Usually the kind of confident know-it-all who refuses to learn anything but delivers changes really quickly so management loves them. I had the misfortune to fix such a project after that 'rock-star' programmer left the company. Unfortunately the lack of professional standards in our industry allows people like that to continuously fail upwards. When I left the project they rehired them and let them design the v2 of the project we just fixed.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago

My company for the longest time had two engineers they would give all the new projects to. They would rush through some prototype code as fast as they could then management would bring in a new team to take the project over. The code was always garbage and crammed into one place. I kept getting new projects and instead of starting from a nice clean slate we always had to build on that garbage. It sucked so bad.

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I feel bad for this kid. That really is a bad warning dialog. Nowhere does it say it's going to delete files. Anyone who thinks that's good design needs a break.

Half the replies are basically "This should be obvious if your past five years of life experience is similar to mine, and if it isn't then get fucked." Just adding insult to injury.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I'm not great at English, but "discard all changes" shouldn't ever mean "Delete".

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (4 children)

In the context of version control it does. Discarding a change that creates a file means deleting the file.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Also, why not send them to the recycle bin? I never really thought about it before, but that does seem a reasonable UX improvement for this case

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 6 days ago (24 children)

let's turn this into a constructive angle for future devs and current juniors: just learn git cli, I promise you it is much simpler than it seems.

all those memes about git having like a thousand commands are true, but you really will only use like 7 at most per month.

learn push, pull, merge, squash, stash, reset, im probably missing like one or two

I promise you again: it is much simpler than it seems. and you won't have to use these stupid git GUI things, and it will save you a hassle because you will know what commands you are running and what they do

short disclaimer: using git GUI is totally fine but low-key you are missing out on so much

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 days ago (1 children)

im probably missing like one or two

commit. Lol

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[–] [email protected] 169 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

In case anyone else is wondering, or simply doesn't like reading screen shots of text, this is apparently a real report:

https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/32405

[–] [email protected] 124 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Steps to Reproduce:

1.Go near this fucking shit editor.

2.Commit the deadly sin of touching the source control options.

🀣

[–] [email protected] 91 points 6 days ago (12 children)
  1. Ignore the scary warning VS Code shows you when you press the button.
[–] [email protected] 108 points 6 days ago (13 children)

I dunno, β€œdiscard changes” is usually not the same as β€œdelete all files”

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nowadays the warning even says that this cannot be undone. Maybe that wasn’t present in 1.15, though.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden 41 points 6 days ago

It was. If you go through the OP thread, one of the responses is a picture of the dialog window that this user clicked through saying, "these changes will be IRREVERSIBLE".

The OP was just playing with a new kind of fire (VSCodes Git/source control panel) that they didn't understand, and they got burned.

We all gotta get burnt at least once, but it normally turns us into better devs in the end. I would bet money that this person uses source control now, as long as they are still coding.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 days ago (5 children)

5000 files

0 backups

Someone's got their priorities mixed up.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago

having 5000 backups of 0 files is also kinda pointless.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Reminds me of a hilarious bug in early GHC: https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/163

The compiler will delete your source file if there's any compile error. And the user complained only by sending a very polite email to report this bug. Simon Peyton Jones mentioned it in one of his talks and I still find it quite hilarious till this day.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 days ago

I fucking HATE when abstractions over git use cutesy names that git doesn't use.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I always found Git GUIs, especially the ones built into IDEs, to be more confusing and clunkier than working with Git on a terminal. It often feels like unlearning what one knows about Git, and relearning it the way that specific GUI demands.

Heck, I am going through the aforementioned feeling as I force myself to use Magit on Emacs. It just does not feel intuitive. But I will not give up until I have made an honest and full attempt.

The only sensible Git GUI I ever used is Sublime Merge[0], after a coworker praised it immensely. Even that is reserved for the rarest of the rare times when the changes in the workspace gets unwieldy and unruly. For every other instance: Git CLI on a terminal.

[0] https://www.sublimemerge.com/

E: typo, and link to mentioned GUI.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 days ago (16 children)

Say you don't know how to use git without saying you don't know how to use git.

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[–] bitwolf 29 points 6 days ago (12 children)

It does warn you it will erase the file when you discard...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Go read the actual thread. There was a bug someone found that files you have in there that aren't even associated with git still get deleted. I'm not entirely convinced this was the poster's fault.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 6 days ago (39 children)
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[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Poor guy basically did a git reset β€”hard HEAD without even a git repository

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 days ago

Obligatory mention of file recovery as an option if you get in this situation.I recommend testdisk but there are other more gui friendly options.

NTFS takes a relatively long time to destroy the data so chances of recovery are good on Windows.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The reactions here are why people don't join forums, don't ask questions, or choose to learn alone. "duh, I knew that". Yes, the dude didn't, which is exactly why he's frustrated. I think too many have forgotten what it's like to be a beginner and make a fatal mistake, which would explain the mocking responses here and things like recommending new linux users Arch.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I understand the impulse to be empathetic and kind. But it's very hard to respond in good faith to someone who just made a post where more than half the words are "fuck you".

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (7 children)

A feature that permanently deletes 5000 files with one click without warning deserves a fuck you.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Looks like someone forgot about the 3-2-1 rule. Teachable moment.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (17 children)

Honestly no idea why someone would go around a completely unknown menu in a new unknown editor and randomly click things with caution completely out the window. Not having a copy or trying a blank project, not even reading any messages. I mean even if we don't know it's a nuke button, God knows what other edits it could do to your code without you knowing.

This goes beyond rookie mistake. This is something 12 year old me would do. Same with the issue page being 90% swear words.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

While I have some sympathy for anyone who loses months of work, as an IT administrator by day, all I have to say about their lack of backups, and lack of RTFM before messing with shit is:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA. you got what you deserved fucker. GL.YF.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

No backup, no sympathy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Man I get paranoid about synchronization programs for this very reason. There's usually some turnkey easy-mode enabled as soon as you first launch that's like:

"Hey you wanna back up your entire NAS to your phone?! That'll be fun, right?!"

And you're like "...No."

And then it wants to obliterate everything so it's all "synchronized", often it's not easy to find a "No, stop, don't do anything at all until I configure this." Option.

iTunes was SO BAD about this.

Syncthing is the least-bad sync software I've ever run. It's got some footguns but it's still brilliant.

I would imagine there's still ways to back up version controlled software right?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (9 children)

That has the same energy as complaining that a file manager has "Delete" in the context menu.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (10 children)

deleted a chunk of my work the other day by pressing Ctrl z in windows explorer. my project was without source control installed (cuz it was in Dev stage), and Ctrl shit z/Ctrl y hotkeys didn't work, so that chunk was just gone, persished forever... or so I though. I remembered vs code having a file history under some panel. found it, and here it was - at least some of the latest history of my file. lesson learned: even in Dev where nothing is yet working, finish your day of coding with a commit to a remote repo.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure that the "three months of work" was completely shit code. Anybody who is unfamiliar with source control (or even backups!) is prone to making stupid mistakes. Republican voters are likely to have a similar experience over the next 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

What a delightfully divisive statement. We do all need to start somewhere though, and losing months of work is very discouraging!

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