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The measure received 14 votes in favour, with the US the sole member to reject it. However, because the US is a permanent member of the council, it has the ability to veto any resolution brought forward

Unlike several previous resolutions regarding a ceasefire in Gaza, Wednesday's measure was brought forward by all 10 elected members of the Security Council.

The US has vetoed four previous attempts at calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, on most occasions being the lone vote against the measures.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

Is there any future where the Security Council is abolished?

Like, where everyone gets tired of this shit from the U.S, Russia, and China, and Europe uses their weight to end it?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago

Why are they even allowed to vote over their own war? Oh I meant Israel's. My bad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So that "Ceasefire" talk under Harris was bullshit eh?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No way to know, she never will be president, nor have had say in any of it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

She is literally vice president, and also had Q&As with the population saying she is in full support of Israel.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

The Vice President does have a powerful voice, but except for very specific situations they don't have any power. So while Harris may have more or less supported Israel's war, as a Vice President she can't do anything about it. She also won't become the president so this whole discussion is mute.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 14 hours ago

Anyone who can't see America's true colours by now is simply refusing to look

[–] [email protected] 97 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

🤔

Bruh

Lame duck presidency and can't even do the right thing

Ducks aren't even this lame

[–] [email protected] 63 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Shows he and the Democratic leaders never intended to end the genicide. Just another sign the democrats no longer support anyone but the oligarchy. Yes the Republicans are worse by alot but people that are anti genicide, anti oligarchy, anti fascism, anti authoritarianism, etc don't have a party to vote for. Only the level of oppression they will see in the next 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Imagine a person having to choose between losing 2 of their limbs or losing all 4 limbs.

Democrats are basically the ones wanting to cut off 2 of your limbs

Republicans want to cut off all your limbs.

Thats what is is. I mean I voted against the party that wants to cut off 4 of my limbs, but I'm just sad that there isn't a party (that can actually win elections) that is saying "we don't cut off any of your limbs".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Me: why orphan crushing machine?

You: because other orphan crushing machine driven by Nazies.

Me: but why don't we destroy orphan crushing machine?

You: because orphan crushing machine go burrrrrrrrr

Me:...........

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Come back when there is an option that actually destroys the orphan crushing machines. Otherwise your just pouring more fuel into it and making it work faster.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

As long as you keep voting limb cutters, they have no motivation to stop cutting limbs. Not voting for limb cutters is the only way to make non limb cutting get on the ballot

[–] [email protected] -2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

"I would only have the time to save 2 of the 4 childrens in the burning house so I might as well not save any of the children."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Now imagine next election one person is threatening to kill 4 children and the other team 6. Well obviously we should save 4! Then next election, we have to kill 6, so we don't vote for the person killing 8. And so on. That's how we got in this predicament.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The people who want to kill 0 children literally do not show up to primaries.

That's how we get candidates that want to kill 2 children in every election.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

harris had never gotten even thousand votes in the primaries where 10 million people vote. she only got to become vp by sucking up to superpacs who didn’t want a progressive like warren as vp

and since 2016 dnc uses primaries more for just pissing on its members.

the problem is not the voters but dnc which today is run by lobbyists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago

That is a valid position if you intend to use that time to make it so that children don't need to burn every election.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

"Two limbs is just as bad as 4 limbs, so I choose 4 limbs!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

Not for nothing, but where is this two limb option? All I see is four limb options except one is grinning and clapping the other is just wearing a false look of commiseration.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You do realize that there is more than one election? Like every four years there is an election. Treating every election like it is the only one and never looking past the immediate effects for the next year is what brought this mess in the first place.

This is also why this comparison is bad. You can not only loose at this election, but the next one and the one after that amd the one after that. In fact one could argue Americans have been loosong every election to the neoliberals since a few decades. And why? Because you never made a point of getting one party to stop being neoliberals.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This election made me realize that political affiliation in the states for a lot of people is like being in a cult. Rather than accepting that your side has issues and needs a change, people just try to justify it by pointing how bad the other side can be worse. Like 90% of lemmy democrats don't get that I'm not motivated to vote for being waist-deep in shit vs chest-deep in shit. Yes, one is worse than another, but I prefer to vote so I don't have to be in shit at all. But all they will say back is hurr durr trump bad.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago

I feel like we need to normalize that demanding more from representatives is OK and necessary for a functioning democracy. The party needs to respond to the demands of those they are supposed to represent. This election made it clear that they only care about the demands of the donors and that needs to change

[–] [email protected] 66 points 20 hours ago

What absolute pieces of shit. Can't even bother to do the right thing when it doesn't even matter anymore.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 20 hours ago

Wtf is wrong with these people. I only voted for them bcz the alternative is a fascist piece of shit. I fucking hate this country.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 18 hours ago

And so every third party voter is vindicated.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not a US citizen, but I can understand why some people didn't wanna vote this time.

Even though Trump might be worse than Biden when it comes to this conflict, how can anyone vote for Kamala knowing that the death of more innocents will be on their conscience?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

it's like the trolley problem. would you rather have more people die or a smaller but still sizable amount of people die? unfortunately in America there are only 2 viable candidates.