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Cannabis is finally being decriminalized in more and more places around the world. And for very good reasons! Compared to other legal drugs such as alcohol, cannabis is pretty mild and most users enjoy it without issue. But there’s a dark side for some. So let’s take an honest look at some of the latest research together.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this the devil's lettuce everybody is on about?

But this video is right: weed isn't perfectly safe. Try and buy from a safe, legal source, don't give it to <20yos, and use it in moderate or low doses, then you should be fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The good thing about weed with higher THC is that you need less of it in order to get high and so you don't have to smoke as much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is difficult to dose though and I doubt people calculate how many grams they can smoke according to THC content. It's just "one toke dude" or a hit from a bong with however much fits in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True, my primary consumption is through vapes. So I can control the dosages a little bit better. I generally stay away from edibles because being high for hours at a time does not sound at all fun to me like not at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I try to avoid edibles during the day for that reason, can’t go and deal with a kid or work issue if I’m medicated for that long. At least with puffs I can tone it down and be able to drive and deal with stuff.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This video did not touch on tinctures nor pills. Both forms highly able to control your dose, as you can easily measure to the mg, albeit without a rapid come on like smoking or vaping, full disclosure. Furthermore, pills can also carry a less precise come on due to other factors related to digestion. But, you can still see exactly how much you are taking.

Not to knock smoking too much, but such measurements do not seem to exist for this method. I think people generally measure in number of hits + how large of a draw they take. People often know their limit, but it's very unscientific.

Tinctures and pills also don't carry the silliness of other edibles (technically the tincture is sublingual), like gummies and cookies. People abuse regular gummy vitamins!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Inhaling smoke from burning matter is also way more harmful to the body than intake via swallowing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's the reason why I only eat my weed. The harm from smoking, simply burning stuff into my lungs would cancel out any good effects of the weed. But maybe its because I have asthma and allergies, maybe for those that are healthier its slightly less bad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

The worst thing about weed smoking culture (at least here in Germany) is that people tend to only make tips and not use filters, even when they mix with tobacco, which also a lot of people do. I don’t want unfiltered smoke in my lungs and I definitely don’t want unfiltered smoke with tar and nicotine.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I agree that oil capsules are the way to go for dosing precision and general healthiness. I like oil caps the most out of all edibles simply because you can lock in a approximate amount needed to get you medicated. Not requiring further cooking or excess calories is a bonus.

To answer your question about dosing vapor, I can give some insight as a vaping nerd.

Just to be clear I mean dry herb vaping where the raw cannabis flower is baked at a temperature hot enough to vaporize the plant oil with all the good cannabinoids but not hot enough to burn or combust the flower. This method is much cleaner than combustion smoking while avoiding the possible synthetic additives in cartridge vapes.

When it comes to vaping theres two paths users tend to head down. One common path is that you just quit combustion smoking. You miss it and want to emulate the experience of smoking as closely as possible.

Big milky vapor clouds filling your regular sized bongs and exiting your lungs in a huge rip. This path leads towards the natural conclusion of expensive ball vapes and can easily burn through zips a week. You don't care because you can afford it or grow your own.

More experienced vapor heads realize another path. It turns out you don't actually need all that much vapor to get baked, especially with good flower or basic tolerance management.

So you go for maximizing your herb efficency. Try to get every bit of vapor out of a very small amount of herb.

This is where some people start to actually care about dosing. Exactly how much vapor does .05 g worth of bud produce? Exactly how many .Xg's does it take to get you where you need to be?

This path of microdose vaping is most commonly followed by half bowl dynavap users, but there are many microdosing options.

Here are three different bowl sized.

I can't tell you exact numbers but spitballing the biggest bowl probably holds .15-.20g, the middle one holds .10g and the teeny tiny one .05gs. How these get used depends on flower quality.

If I'm vaporizing top tier ganja Its easy to get medicated and I want to stretch it out with the small or middle bowl sizes. If I'm vaporizing lots of cheap mid or shake I'm going for the big bowl.

It also somewhat depends on if I'm wanting to run the vapor through a water piece that day. The open air of the big bowl makes pulling through water much easier on the lungs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, I can measure what I'm getting out of my dry herb vape pretty well, just weigh the input and assume about 30% loss.

[–] Uranium_Green 3 points 2 weeks ago

I get what you're trying to say, but that still isn't exactly accurate.

If you measure the herb before and after, it'll give you the total of evaporated difference, but this difference will not reflect the actual THC/CBD consumed, you've got terpenes and other volatile compound in there as well, adding weight.

Nor does it account for losses due to condensation on the inside of the vape.

If you know how much it your herb is THC/CBD, then you estimate with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

Also now that I've written this out, I realise how "Well actually..." this is; my bad.

Love the username btw, what vape do you use if you don't mind my asking?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm a long time user 43 years for past 10+ a daily user mostly vaping dabs but also tinctures and I may rarely smoke some infused flower. In the past 4-5 years I have been experiencing cannabis induced hyperemesis Basically when I get enough on board and get some munchies late at night then go to bed my stomach will shut down and anything in there starts fermenting, this is followed by bloating, nausea, then cyclic vomiting for hours on end until everything comes back up. Haven't seen anyone else here mentioning it.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21665-cannabis-hyperemesis-syndrome

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

I hope they follow this up with a “we need to talk about prohibition” video because that is where the most harm resides. All drugs have downsides, but treating them as a justice issue rather than a health issue harms everyone.