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[–] [email protected] 4 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

Remember when people said they'd take "Any functional adult" over Trump? Well... That's why I still blame the voters here. They had their functional adult and didn't seize the opportunity

[–] [email protected] 2 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

This is what you get when "any functional adult" is the standard you hold your leaders to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

If that was the standard Kamala would've won

[–] [email protected] 2 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

Well it turns out that isn't a good enough standard to get enough people up to vote, but I did hear it a lot from a lot of active posters online.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Anyone who didn't vote for her doesn't want a functional adult in office... So they got what they wanted I guess. I 100% blame those voters

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

Good luck with that. The election was hers to lose and she lost it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHnJp0oyOxs

Well we’re living here in Allentown
And they’re closing all the factories down
Out in Bethlehem, they're killing time
Filling out forms, standing in line

Well we're waiting here in Allentown
For the Pennsylvania we never found
For the promises our teachers gave
If we worked hard, if we behaved

Every child had a pretty good shot
To get at least as far as their old man got
But something happened on the way to that place
They threw an American flag in our face

Well I'm living here in Allentown
And it's hard to keep a good man down
But I won't be getting up today

That was over forty years ago, and ever since Bill Clinton’s triangulation, the Democratic party has only further abandoned the working class. Gore, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Biden, and Harris are all of this unbroken neoliberal Clintonian dynasty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Have you seen this clip? Michael Moore on the Democratic party: https://youtu.be/MVnIatb7iVI

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

johnny didn't sweep daniels leg, daniel let his leg be swept. johnny is the real victim.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

In this analogy it's against the rules for someone to run against you and win?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 minutes ago

not really. its more about honorable methods.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

This is a good article calling out the true problems with the campaign.

I keep seeing people blame voters, but the only group to blame is the Democratic Party. Parties exist to serve and represent voters, not the other way round.

The Dems failed to address the genuine concerns of their traditional base - primarily the economy - and that left the race open for the Repulicans.

The Democrat message on the economy seemed to basically be "things are not as bad as you think and we've already done what was needed". Instead they focused on abortion and a threat to democracy as the main issues of the election.

Yet for many lower income households, they rent and have been hit doubly hard by inflation. Home owners have been shielded from the rent portion of the cost of living crisis, and experienced less hardship. The dems did not seem to understand that and effectively left the field open for the republicans.

Looking at the numbers, Trump hasn't significantly grown the Republican vote or if so, it's a relatively small increase. Yet the Democrat vote is way down on where it was in 2020.

There are lots of other failures on the part of the Dems - allowing Biden to run essentially unchallenged, the leadership aggressively pushing back against concerns about his suitability, Biden waiting until very late to step back and Harris being coronated and having to use Bidens existing campaign. Harris was a decent enough candidate but she was given an impossible task thanks to an out of touch and poorly led party.

The Dems lost this election, rather than Trump winning it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

If you choose not to decide (or vote) you still have made a choice. Biden voters who refused to vote Harris chose to let the rest of the country decide for them. They will be worse off for it. Hopefully they learn from this but I doubt it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

No, Trump won it. He got votes and those votes were from people who cast them. Yes, democratic party has problems, but the far bigger problem is that enough people voted for Trump when given other options.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago

Trump won the election because he won the election is a tautological argument. It’s not false, but it elucidates nothing.

[–] iAmTheTot 9 points 3 hours ago

It's wild to me how many excuses people are willing to make for the tens of millions of Americans that actively choose Trump.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

Fuck outta here.