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'All democracies turn into dictatorships—but not by coup. The people give their democracy to a dictator.' - George Lucas on the Clone Wars (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

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https://www.ign.com/articles/2002/04/25/democracy-tyranny-and-star-wars

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Anacyclosis is a political theory that describes the cyclical nature of political systems, suggesting that governments progress through a series of stages from monarchy to tyranny, then to aristocracy, democracy, and eventually back to monarchy. This concept emphasizes the inevitable decline of political systems as they shift between these forms, influenced by internal and external factors.

[–] humblebun 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Mom, please take me home. Soft men made the times hard again 😭😭😭

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

*Soft men made me hard again wink

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This is ANCIENT. Plato wrote this in Republic.

ETA: It has been a while, so I don't know the exact order Plato's cycle has.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

In the Republic, it basically goes: aristocracy (of philosophers) -> aristocracy (of warriors) -> oligarchy -> democracy -> tyranny

[+] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

They fail because people are lied to. Because they are used, and abused, and offered limited resources.

So they turn to someone who gives them hopeful words. Sadly those words are often lies.

Laying at the feet of "stupidity" is over-simplifying it because it makes the hurt a little less.

If all this suffering can just be laid at "ur dum" it hurts just a little less. But it's a terrible anesthetic that makes the next hurt that much more likely.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Haha, good one. Neither were democracies in the modern sense, in both cases voting right were so restrictive that large parts of the population did not matter.

Imagine a first past the post system but instead of states, you are grouped together by income.

And instead of voting simulaneously, the richest blocks votes first.

And now imagine, that 50% of the american populace gets one of 150 electors.

The vast majority of romans IN ROME never got to vote on any of the important positions.