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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also fuck greedy investor urbanism. Valencia spent an enormous amount of time and money to redirect a river prone to flooding outside of the city. And then promptly urbanized the risky flood plain with housing and commerce.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Jesus fucking Christ. I get advocating for less car reliance but cheering the deaths of people just for owning cars is beyond fucked.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Who are cheering the death? The post had no mention of dead people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The comment was removed but it was there and it had a depressing number of up votes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This one?

Wow, 2 opvotes vs 52 downvotes. Soo depressing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

The post was new at the time and there were no downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Its black humor, not cheering the deaths of people. It's pointing out that we've been warning the world for years that exactly this will happen, and now it has in a way that resembles a system correcting itself. There's no joy in hilighting this, just ironic tragedy and the laughter of the gallows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

"I will shed no tears for any car owner killed in this disaster. They got what they deserved. For everyone else, I wish I knew where to donate toward any relief funds.” -- [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The comment is likely gone now but there was someone cheering in the comments.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

And had they replied to that comment they would have had a point.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

People can hate cars AND help humans in need, even car users.

Flooding wouldn't be so bad without global car dependency.

I'm sorry for all the losses the people have to endure, but after this is over, there needs to be a discussion how to prevent disaster like these or minimise their impact on human and general environment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Flooding wouldn’t be so bad without global car dependency.

because of climate change or...?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Reduced inpacts of climate change but more importantly better urban design. Long, straight, impermeable roads guide water wherever it wants to go with little resistance or slow downs. Cities can be built to be more permeable to handle water better, they can also implement stomwater retention and detention ponds.

Many cities currently waste lots of space on asphalt for cars. We could build transit with permeable surfaces (such as grassy tram lines or cycle lanes designed from permeable materials). We could build less parking lots and save that space for stormwater ponds.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

The financial, spatial and carbon economy of motorised private transport is inefficient, including its infrastructure. Opportunity costs of missing climate action due to economical reliance on private transport, spatial constraints of land use for traffic and inefficient housing (private transport induced sprawl) are just two examples for that.

Climate change fuels flooding frequency and severity, so fueling climate change with fossil fuelled private transport is irresponsible.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

So basically, a submission that places fuck cars users at the level of this guy. Makes sense, fits all my expectations for them.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago

The responses to this on the other post were the same, punitive and wrathful with no space left for critical thinking.

How many people shop online then consume media showing the impacts of climate change or reports of warehouse working conditions within the delivery window? How many "fuck cars" users also subscribe to gentle parenting content? How many were raised in Christian homes and currently hold negative views on religion generally?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess fuck all the buildings and lives as well, right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

The destruction of automobiles during a disaster which was made far worse as a result of climate change is a very poignant juxtaposition.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

what if carbomb?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So brave to seize on a natural disaster and massive human tragedy. How proud of yourselves you must be.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“Natural” disaster.

This is like when republicans whine about how inappropriate it is to criticize loose gun regulations after a mass shooting.

No. This is exactly the time to bring it up.