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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

A quote attributed to a few people, Heinlein and Pournelle for two, "If you can get your ship into orbit, you're halfway to anywhere." Both space and planets have shared and their separate problems to solve. In my head I prefer the image of most populations moving into habitats in space, customized to their preferences, with smaller settlements on various bodies for their own purposes. In my realistic view I don't see us getting that far before we get bogged down with all the problems we've created on this planet. The window to a permanent space civilization might have already shut. A sad thing, as a 70s kid I grew up convinced we were full speed into some version of what scifi had sold to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

After reading A City on Mars by Kelly and Zach Weinersmith I think a O'Neill Cylinder spinning spaceship for artificial gravity type is more achievable than planarity colonisation.

But the main point of the book, and I am fairly convinced of the more I think about it, is that it is a lot of effort and risk for not a lot of gain and we are entirely unprepared for space colonisation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Neither. There's plenty of room and resources here on Earth. I think it's fine to do space exploration and even have research bases on moons and other planets, but I just don't see the imperative for colonization.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Genetically modify ourselves so that we can live both in zero gravity (and maybe survive short exposure to vacuum) and on other planets.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Actually, both.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We should stay fucking put until we figure out how to end greed and racism once and for all

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Until we are able to travel way faster than what we can do now, I think it’s more feasible to build in space. Lots of implications for long term effects on human bodies though. Most ideal is a wormhole to an identical planet to earth so humans won’t need to adapt.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The odds of an exactly identical planet existing naturally are very slim. The only way to get that is some kind of terraforming. Or we evolve to adapt to our new environments. Which could mean that humans could split out into multiple successor species.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think space habitats any significant distance from Earth will be possible. Mitigating the increased radiation will be tough enough just trying to get to Mars, much less trying to stay in space out that far. At least on Mars we can hang out in old lava tubes or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

i think you underestimate human ingenuity and the time frames involved.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

How to survive in space: Develop ways to survive in space only first. Once you manage that all the other problems are trivial compared and you don't have a single point of failure (aka our planet) anymore. Isn't that obvious?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

yes.

if we want to become a true space faring species resilient to all that the universe can throw at us we will need both

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Both! All three!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

If we are capable of doing one, then we can do both.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

C) Undersea habitat domes!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Colonizing Antarctica would be more reasonable than that.

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