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Voting 3rd party or abstaining for progressivism is the biggest self own in history.

With Gore, there definitely wouldn't have been a war in Iraq. For Afghanistan, who knows. Even if it started out the same, without the drain of Iraq who knows what would have happened long term in Afghanistan.

I am fucking sick and tired of all these terminally-naive ideologues trying to destroy all of us with their purity-test-turned-suicide-pact.

This issue is far more Nuance then this post would have you believe...

Before I go on let me say I'm voting blue and want Democrats to win.

But if the only support you are willing to show our Palestinian and Arab brothers and sisters are these half hearted, backhanded, and condescending social media posts about how you know what's best. Well, you are in for a rude awakening. People that actually care about genicide will just stay home on election day.

These comments and posts do nothing but prove we don't care about each other, unless it personally effects us in some way. If you really care get off you ass and actual help the Palestinian and Arab communities! the least you can do is call your federal and state senators daily to demand they publicly condemn Israel and the IDF and divest from all institutions that give money to them. But no these posts and comments will get Palestinians and Arabs on our side? This is what conservatives do. We are better than this.

The most you should be doing is calling your senators, marching with anti zionest, getting partitions, and getting involved with the Palestinian and Arab communities to help. Show them the blue base cares and won't abandon them the moment Harris or Trump is in office. I have Palestinian friends and they would spit in your face if you said this kind of bullshit to their face because of how absurd it is. Some comments call them selfish for people caring about the genicide of their friends and family and saying Trump would be worse. Ya no shit, but it wasn't Trump that enabled the killing of 40k people in the last 12 months. That's not accounting for the Yemen deaths we the democrats have enabled. You should be more mad at your own parties actions as it's your vote that current has blood on it.

All I'm saying is these posts and comments aren't helping anyone. Get involved. Don't just post behind a screen and expect people to see the light. If we don't care why should they?

The sad thing is, at this point it should be a no-brainer, but here we are. Two weeks from what might be the single most important election of our lifetimes, and we’re STILL having to explain it to people.

Common sense can’t be taught, but one would think it should be learned by example. It clearly Isn’t.

Yeah so I got downvoted for pointing out Michigan only got gerrymandering removed because it was a non partisan demand introduced via petition, and even then it took until 2020 to be passed as law because both parties fought back until the dems gave in when they realized it would help them win for the next election. And yes I still voted blue and I also voted for that measure.

Not only does this failure of a post completely ignore how people react to policy, it actually claims that the big 3 OEMs will manufacture cars worth a damn, let alone be inexpensive, which everyone in ~~Detroit~~ SE Michigan, regardless of their political affiliation, will tell you is a load of horseshit.

So I will be sitting here watching you fools do a repeat of 2016 since evidently no one learned from their mistakes.

Been saying Michigan will be red since last year just over the basic demand of maybe not funding a genocide.

I'm sure after no one believed Clinton's liberal shilling, people will definitely believe in Harris's local policies with her excellent history of state prosecutor.

If Harris loses, the first thing the DNC and all you corporate shills will do is blame 3rd party voting and not actually the fact that they refused to meet constituents' demands. No one out here is voting 3rd party because they think they're going to win.

The whole purpose of a Democracy is that you should be able to utilize your voting power to demand significant change. Harris already blew off the uncommitted movement, which means that:

• She thinks she can win without several millions of voters
• She has no issue losing to Trump if it means keeping Israel happy

At least a seasoned politician would try to maximize appeal if he/she knew their opponent was dangerous if he wins.

Flailing and talking about how Trump would be worse at the same time as willingly ignoring a significant portion of voters is not the marking of a quality campaign nor candidate. It only makes Trump sound less severe, and Harris sound more useless.

I can't even imagine actually walking up to a Palestinian American with this argument in hand. Best case you get shoved away. Worst case scenario you get socked in the jaw.

I just got a call from "the spoiler effect" and it says you trying to give 3rd parties credit for all the hard work it and FPTP voting have been doing to ensure people's voices aren't heard.

Please watch the most important political video in the history of youtube:

Https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

It even has cute jungle animals!

It's amazing how it's always up to millions of Americans to ignore their principles and vote Kamala to defeat Trump and never on just one person - Kamala Harris - to uphold the principles she claims to stand for (you know, not being a fucking Fascist) and stop supporting the sending of weapons and ammo to an ethno-Fascist State actively and shamelessly commit Genocide.

It's almost as if whatever person gets the candidacy in the Democrat Party (which as we know since Bernie Sanders vs Hilary Clinton is really all about what the people in the DNC want) immediately become some kind of Monarch anointed by God Almighty himself and hence whose wishes are Immutable Law and beyond criticism.

The whole thing is a ridiculous display of mindless tribalism and brainless muppet mindset.