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[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

Acknowledging reality is not the same thing as defeatism or "not doing anything." I'd argue that putting your head in the sand and ignoring news/information you don't like is more damaging and closely related to the majority of the world's efforts over the past 50+ years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep.

One could also show the same meme template with stats where every bad development is even accelerating, spikes in co2-rise, record new numbers of consumption and pollution, the Amazon and other carbon sinks getting razed at growing speeds, a lot of carbon sinks turning into carbon emitters, nations voting for extremists who don't care for ecology, glaciers and sea ice melting, all sorts of storms getting stronger and more destructive, the speed with which we are approaching or already have reached tipping points globally and locally...

Yeah, but let's soothe ourselves with... cosmetics? I'm not denying that there's some positive changes but that's like trying to extinguish a house burning to the ground and engulfed in flames with one bucket of water.

My take is: People want to have a better world without changing their lifestyle - simply leave everything as it is and make it in some magical way non destructive and non polluting. EVs are a shining example of that - still ridiculous use of resources, but somehow they are "better".

If you think that way you are part of the problem and part of its denial.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

That is a good point about not wanting anything to change. We can not continue to live how we've lived if this will be solved. Reductions in population should help reduce demand and land use (enforced with law, of course), but some things people enjoy will have to go. You don't need to eat foods grown thousands of miles away or to eat beef every day. You may have to endure temperature discomfort, lose personal transportation options, etc. Even these things are small, government (especially militaries) and business will need to be held to account and have their emissions massively reduced.

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[–] Mandy 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

To be fair, as much as we should highlight the good news.
I wouldnt say It is defeatism to say there is a hell of a lot more bad stuff going, we should highlight the good stuff while recognizing we have a ways to go.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Eat right and do a little exercise every day and you don't have to be fat anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Today I was citing The Materialist Conception of History by Plekhanov and noticed that it had a huge spike in downloads this year. Gave me a spark of hope

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Historical materialism which is an analysis of history through the lense of dialectical materialism which is the philosophical and scientific basis for Marxism. Essentially viewing history as a continuous development of the means of production motivated by societal contradictions. The focus is specifically on conflict that arises between the owning classes and the laboring classes of each historical mode of production.

I just smoked so this may not be the best explanation but its the best I got in me rn

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

It's not always up to us, but also countries like China that open a new coal plant every week.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

i don't think china is the example you want to point to on that...

https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-renewable-energy

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Don't forget the huge investments by cities to build public and active transit. My city has invested over $1B into rail expansion projects and $500M into BRT. They're currently tearing up half of downtown to widen sidewalks along with building bike lanes and bus lines. Things are changing more quickly than they seem. My city also advocated for a state law that was passed to fund passenger rail between 2 large nearby cities

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Indoor farming is really exclusive for just a few produce tbh. Majority of vegie/fruits can't be realistically indoor farmed.

At least i got my lettuce.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Idk... Iceland is doing pretty well with some large greenhouses. I was pretty amazed at the variety and quality of their fruits and veggies. That island has to deal with some serious issues but seem to be handling them quite well overall!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

Also the US is at about 40% carbon free energy production (renewables + nuclear), which is pretty swag.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Defeatists are just lazy. Call them out for being unwilling to actually do something about the climate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

One could argue that people who soothe themselves with cosmetics are the ones who are unwilling to really tackle the problem. See my other comment for details.

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