No Stupid Questions

Most people aren't all that well informed and don't do a lot of crtical thinking about their political positions on things. Many people are only guided by their emotions.

If your Church says that life begins at conception, then abortion is killing babies. So you'd be angry about abortions happening.

If you hear a horrible crime, you're angry about that and might want the person that did that crime to be executed. If you never hear about or think about innocent people being execute, never consider the ethical problems with a government killing people, never consider the costs of it, and all the other arguments against the death penalty, then you can go through life thinking there's no problem with it.

And even if you hear the rational arguments, they get overpowered by emotion the next time someone says "abortion is murder" or you hear about a horrible crime happening that might qualify for the death penalty.

They’re both cruel to anyone “below” them (this is a simplistic argument.) They’re easy to cry wolf about in order to draw people over to your side, people who vote and act emotionally

Because they are hypocrites, once that baby leaves the womb they give zero fucks.

Don't get an abortion, also we aren't paying for that kids lunch

welcome to high school debate class, where we think about issues with more nuance than most politicians.

It is, but they will persist because their motivation has nothing to do with rational thinking.

To be fair to those people (which I'm really not inclined to be), I'm pro-choice but strongly against the death penalty. So I guess it swings both ways.

I blame religion.

They only care until you’re born, then you can go and die in a ditch somewhere.

I'm pro abortion and against the death penalty! Someone ask me! I promise I'm not a troll. I am honestly pro abortion not just pro choice.

Punishment. They aren't against abortion, they're pro punishment. They don't think any laws should be about mitigation or helping, only as a means of punishing.

It's in how they talk: "she should have kept her legs closed"; "that's what you get for being a slut"; "if you don't want to have a baby, don't have sex". The pregnancy is a punishment for anyone who wants to have sex, but doesn't want to have children. And jail or death is the punishment for avoiding that previous punishment.

When talking about gun control, too: "why should I - a law abiding citizen - be punished for the actions of a few criminals?"; "ShAlL noT bE INfrInGeD". They don't want laws to do anything but punish. Mitigation? Expansion of freedoms of "them"? No.

Look at voter ID laws: they're restrictive to our freedom, but proposed as punishment for "fraud".

And it often stems from an individualistic and Evangelical ideal. Everyone is "responsible" for their actions. There are no systemic issues in the mind of an evangelical. God is punishing the individual. The laws are punishing the individual. We don't need to change, because we includes I, and I don't need to change, because "I'm a good Christian warrior in the fight against evil".

And evangelicals definitely think there is a spiritual war going on, so punishment of the "wicked" is always an option. Because being wicked is an individual issue.

(Also why they think drug addiction is a moral failing of the individual, not a societal one, and therefore they should be punished).

Right now, evangelicalism and their Christofascist views are moving into political positions of power. They have tons of money coming in, and even if Fuckface 45 (their evangelical God-king warrior) doesn't get into office, they'll still continue to influence policy and grab seats of power.

We need to be aware of them, and stop them at every pass.

These same people also solve seem to give af about the suffering of children outside of the border of the country.

I've yet to hear any evangelical cry about dead Palestinian children or the suffering of children on the other side of the American Mexican border.

I think that can be explained, but tell me how someone can be in favor of the death penalty but be against assisted suicide.

Because it's not about saving the lives of unborn babies and it never has been.

It's about curtailing choice.

If you smoke weed you're more likely to wear converse. It's aesthetics. When someone says they're anti abortion I usually see it as aesthetics. They want others to see them as being anti abortion. That's what they get out of it.

It isn't a literal belief. Democrats reduce abortions, much better than cons. Being anti abortion should mean voting for Democrats... IF you were still taking things literally. It's not misinformation or lack of education, it's misaligned priorities.

They're just trying to be a tribe and signal allegiance. To have literal beliefs that you live by regardless of "your side" is a completely different game to what they're playing.