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    [–] [email protected] 285 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Updated for 2024 and a post Proton world.

    [–] Steamymoomilk 79 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    True Statement, The new macs have better gaming support on linux than macOS

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Are we talking about the M3 chips? Or the last intel? Because these are not the same.

    [–] Steamymoomilk 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Were talking about m serie, the fps may not be amazing but macos cant run windows games like linux can. When every wwdc apple just shows off some game they paid a metric crap ton to get it ported. Which isnt really gaming, if your selection is like 5 games.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    That's so false.. That's like saying the only games Windows can run is Halo and whatever crap is in the Windows Store. Steam has thousands of out-of-the-box compatible games and Crossover helps cover many other games.

    Before I got I rebuild my Linux gaming PC (watercooling shenanigans) I gamed for a solid year on MacOS. I played Baldur's Gate 3 on release for Windows through Crossover, was on my second play through when official Mac support dropped. I've played Civ 5 & 6 with friends. I've made many cities in Cities Skylines. I played FF7 Remake again. Even for old 32-bit Windows games like Touhou 6 run with minor tweaking.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Crossover is the commercial version of the code behind proton, developed by the same company. It doesn't work as well on Mac as on Linux. Since "Like Linux but worse" is exactly the point you're responding to, so you're pretty much in agreement with them?

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Hey, nobody disputes that.

    Doesn't mean macOS has a comparable portfolio of games it runs. Proton just works better than crossover or Whiskey or whatever.

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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Try Whisky! It uses Wine and has conversion for the Apple graphics layer. It runs some games you can’t get running otherwise.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

    I knew booze was the only way to make using a Mac bearable.

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    You should probably also update the meme faces to whatever the hell the kids are using these days.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Christ. Fr. I was so excited when the Asahi team started to show off Vulkan games on M1 chips. Once it’s had a bit of time in the oven I’m ripping MacOs out of an, otherwise, wonderful device for what I paid for it.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

    Even more true

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    [–] [email protected] 82 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    It's even worse than you think.

    He will become... An engineer.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I can attest to that. Parents tried Linux to prevent me from gaming. Learned to dual boot first, got into security and Linux later and am engineer today. N+=1

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    parents in the background going "Our plan was a succes"

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    I miss the Dilbert cartoons.

    [–] [email protected] 71 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Then the kid installs Proton and your keikaku* fails miserably.

    *TN: keikaku means plan.

    [–] loaExMachina 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I think the plan is more that he'll be so busy coonfing to optimize his userspace that he'll have no time to game.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    Arch Linux’s time to shine

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    It comes with Steam by default and is automatically used out of the box when a native linux version of the game isn't found.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Kinda... you do need to enable it in settings.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Are you sure? I know it was like that when it first came out but I think now they have it enabled by default, just install and run the games under it automatically.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Only if the game wasn't tested and verified

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    I did not have to enforce proton on cyberpunk which is running using proton 🤔

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    [–] [email protected] 57 points 3 weeks ago
    [–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I played so much supertuxkart in middle school, then got pretty good at figuring out how to configure wine to make everything work in high school, and now as an adult wine has gotten so good that I just click on whatever I want to play on steam and 90% of the time it just works flawlessly, I don't even always remember which games are native and which are running in wine these days.

    Anyway yeah, using linux never made me spend less time playing games

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    Supertuxkart is one of the best games that I've ever played.
    Mostly because it has a multiplayer mode. Much more than LAN multiplayer, it had options to map controls for the 2nd player on the same keyboard.
    Used it to play with my relatives and it was fun.

    [–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Is that Tom Scott from the future?

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    It's Linus Torvalds.

    [–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago
    [–] Steamymoomilk 23 points 3 weeks ago

    Plan failed, the kid read the man pages and stackoverflow

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I think a friend of mine would be delighted to have his children play video games.

    They are only consuming [tiktock, yt, other social media].

    I think he rather wants his children beating Red Alert campaign, than cpnsum 10s tiktocks.

    Modding your first game, opening condigs ans inis, because key-remapping wasn't a thing...all the gateways to interact with file system.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Learning how to edit config.sys to get sound working without internet help was a rite of passage for many.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    The first time I knew I wanted to hack the planet was when I figured out how to edit a config file in Castles II: Siege and Conquest which let me start with max gold and resources so I could finally conquer the entire map and make that smug fucking pope eat my entire ass.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I'm hooking mine up on games as soon as they can hold a mouse and a keyboard, airgap the PC.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    My oldest is about ready for her first computer, so I have an ewaste laptop earmarked for Christmas that I'll have to tweak the configuration a bit more on before then.

    She's been getting better at better playing Minecraft and learning how to ask us how to spell the names of things so she can search for them in Minecraft, and getting pretty good with the mouse and keyboard too

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    I caught my son using Linux PC and Android tablet at the same time... he was just using the microphone in Gboard to learn to spell out what he wanted to put on his signs in Minecraft Java.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    I plan to teach my son how to mod consoles and play retro games on them 😂

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

    I think the only game that's given me a hard time with linux is Call of Duty

    And that's not to say that you couldn't get it to work, it was just more than one click to set up so I couldn't be bothered.

    Honestly, probably better of without CoD anyway

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    This is true. I have a completely broken arch linux install right now, wine doesn't work. Only games I play are OpenTTD and Aisleriot Solitaire on my laptop.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

    This got me thinking: If I, for some masochistic reason, decided to switch to MacOS - is it possible to install it on an average PC?

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    I don’t know of the community is still going with the release of Apple Silicon, but you used to be able to with the Hackintosh project. I can’t imagine you still can with the switch to ARM.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    That's why I played bzflag

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