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Ethical Consumerism

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be clear:

This sucks and it's not what the vast majority of consumers want.

But its a multi-billion dollar global corporation...

We boycott them, you know who we'll have to buy from?

A multi-billion dollar global corporation. If we try to use independent companies for specific products, one of the mega billion dollar corps will buy the product for the name, destroy everything good about, and raise the price because people want the name.

The only way consumerism can be ethical is start regulating capitalism again, and the corps donate enough to every single political option so there's zero chance they'll be reigned in.

We can't fix capitalism till we fix politics.

And it's not looking like we're gonna fix politics anytime soon. But that doesn't mean we get to skip that step because it's hard.

Maybe if everyone boycotted at once, but we can't even get everyone to boycott fucking Twitter, or Unilever for shit like this:

https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/company-profile/unilever

I doubt many "ethical consumers" draw their line at social media advertising instead of all that other shit that unilever has been doing for years.

[–] Reverendender 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It costs me nothing to boycott them and Nestle. I honestly don’t use a lot of name brand food products. I look at these lists and nothing is missing from my life. I’d be delighted to discuss products I do use (and learn if I shouldn’t be) and the things I cook from scratch etc. Which is really pretty much the intent of this community.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It costs me nothing to boycott them and Nestle. I honestly don’t use a lot of name brand food products

This is my point.

You're already doing it because of the huge pile of reasons to do so, very few people will have ads on Twitter be the final straw.

I’d be delighted to discuss products I do use (and learn if I shouldn’t be) and the things I cook from scratch etc. Which is really pretty much the intent of this community.

Those types of posts would do very well, and most likely be productive.

Everyone knows the big corps are shit, and if more people knew ethical options they'd be more likely to grab that one.

[–] Reverendender 2 points 1 month ago

There’s tons of things I cannot do. This is one that I can. I would prefer, in this one small area of life, not to focus on the negative like you seem to want to do.

[–] Reverendender 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here is a list of Unilever products. I was delighted to find that my only offense was purchasing 4 jars of Knorr bouillion powder at the big box. I have enough to last me the next ten years, and will be perfectly happy to never purchase that brand again. I have also of course eaten Ben and Jerry’s, but I am likewise entirely happy to never buy any ever again. Cheers!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Thanks for posting that. I have Qtips and Popsicles that they apparently make. That is a long list but it looks like generic for me moving forward.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Unilever-never-left-russia-Unilever?

Yeah. The council passes a sentence of death.