I mean, better than not going up but $18 would have been reasonable years ago and now it should be far higher.
this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2024
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Last time I checked 25 bucks is cost of living but it's been a couple years. I wouldn't be surprised if it should be higher now.
50k a year in cali... could work if you are renting a bedroom...
In San Jose that’s not even bedroom rental territory, but in Fresno that’s a decent apartment and in Redding that’s a small house you’d be able to get. It’s not great, but Cali also has a super diverse background of where minimum wage goes farther. What’s ironic is the people in the areas that benefit more from this (Redding and other more rural areas) will likely vote against it.
Heck even in the greater LA area you could live with 50k. Plenty of poorer cities where rent is cheaper. People just take the average found online to shit talk rent everywhere. I work in Orange County and rent is crazy here. Between my fiancee and I we couldn't afford to even rent where we work. Maybe some more northern orange county cities.
People need to live where they work. How is your commute and what are costs of car ownership?
I live 15 miles out which isn't a lot but with traffic it's 30-40 minutes on good days and upwards of an hour on bad.
I really don't have it all that bad compared to other people in LA/orange county but I wish I could live in the apartments down the street and just walk/bike here instead of driving.
Under 1 hour aint too bad... for US car commute.
But is cost being out worth the cost of no car and closer?
Yea in comparison it isn't all that bad, but 15 miles shouldnt take anyone more than 20 minutes. I would love to just take public transit instead but it doesn't work for this commute unfortunately.
Can’t wait to see the campaigns against this lmao
Would you peasants think about the poor business owner 🤡
The best part is there's a lot of data now about how the raise in minimum wage has helped in California.
https://rentalrealestate.com/data/rent/california/
Avg Studio Apartment Rent: $1575
Required Hourly Wage for rent to be 1/3 of income, working 40 hrs a week (taxes ignored): $29.54
Avg One Bed Rent: $1724
Required Hourly Full Time Wage (Ignoring Taxes): $32.33
Avg Two Bed Rent: $2,161
Required Hourly Full Time Wage (Ignoring Taxes): $40.52
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So basically, you can afford a studio apartment on a full time min wage job if you share it with someone who works about 20 hrs a week at min wage...
... all ignoring taxes on your income.
That’s if you can find a studio. All I could find by me was 1 & 2 bedrooms.
An important note I feel was fucking unnecessary in this, though I did vote yes because I'm not a moron:
Inflation Adjustments Paused Until 2027. The minimum wage would be adjusted for inflation every year starting in 2027. These adjustments would follow the current rules described earlier.
If minimum wage is always 10+ years behind what a living wage should be, what's the point? People can't survive on $18 an hour, so the focus should only be on living wage.
That's closer to the $45/hour it actually needs to be so, yes, but mostly we keep going.
It needs to be tied to some figure or other so it goes up automatically.
Still too low