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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 month ago (7 children)

try sponsorblock or uBlock. Or some other third party apps. I've decided the inconvenience of watching youtube in a browser (with addons) outweighs the inconvenience of watching several long ads. At least for me.

[–] JohnDClay 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

ReVanced I like better for Mobile, it's the app but with sponsor block and ublock built in.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How does it compare to Newpipe?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (6 children)

ReVanced, in conjunction with MicroG, allows youto be logged in to Google while still having an ad block and sponsor block on mobile. Also setting up might be a little more difficult since it needs you to patch a YouTube apk yourself.

I understands this might be the exact opposite of what some people want but it works for me.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

It's the original YouTube app but with addons. Revanced actually uses Newpipe to offer downloads. Biggest difference is that you can log in with your YouTube account on Revanced.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I did use to use Vanced but stuck with Newpipe as it was lighter (not tried Revanced as I switched before the shutdown).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is there also something for roku sticks?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I use playlet on roku which uses invidious, but I recommend setting up your own invidious instance since YouTube has been cracking down on the public instances.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yattee on iOS works sometimes depending on whether or not YouTube has blocked an instance, but you could also try setting up your own local invidious instance to hook into it as a more permanent solution, though that was too much for me to figure out how to set up correctly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Grayjay skips ads, and there's an option to sponsors

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Showed a friend how I got a modified version of Youtube on my phone. He did it, and when it came time to re-certify the app (7 days for none paid developers) he couldn't be bothered to plug his phone in, and let the program (that automatically recertifies it mind you) do it's thing.

He was showing me a video on the new DBZ Sparking Zero game, and had two whole ads before being able to show me whatever it was he was going to show me. I mentioned, "Man. If only there was a way to prevent this kind of nuisance.." and gave him such a withering look, he just put the phone away and said nevermind.

It is actually fucking insane what people are willing to put up with man....

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is a lesson I teach people at my job. It's called "people are people". The basic jist is that YOU this this way, and someone else, who isn't you, thinks this other way. The things you find important in life, may not be a priority for others.

Personally, I place a great importance in staying current with events about companies or politicians trying to take away freedoms, or invade their privacy for the sake of making a profit.

However, my sister is like "oh yeah! Let me just do this 23andme test!". When I explained what she had just done, she didn't care. When I explained to my mom that her putting my info into facebook invades my privacy against my consent, she didn't care. They both think I'm over reacting. They think it's some silly conspiracy theory that companies would use data of peoples personal info for profit.

They don't think like I do. Whatever your most basic common sense fundamental beliefs are, there are people, probably in your life, who don't give a shit about those things.

People are people.

There is no one definition of what a person is. There are currently something like 7-8 billion definitions of what a person is. And it's always changing. Some die off, others are born. Each individually self defined. And those definitions can change over time. My sister in her 20s was a party animal. Out till 3am. Every weekend. Not doing drugs, but certainly drinking.

Now she's in her 50s with a 13 year old daughter, and suddenly the world is full of scary people! She's in bed by 9pm, sometimes earlier. No partying. Maybe a midevening attendance of a play, with a glass of wine....but certainly not at a club partying till 3am! Her definition of who she is, and her self definition has changed since the 90s. That's what people do.

There will be people similar minded to you. There will be others who aren't. You can disagree with the similar minded people on certain topics, and find common ground on other topics with the people you thought you were nothing like.

People are people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I agree with everything you said.

That doesn't mean that we can't at least try to show people or teach them things that they didn't have any knowledge of prior.

All my life I have been self taught. Never had like-minded people, unfortunately. I just try to be the "older sibling" to this man, because he is where I was in life. No one took time to show him things, called him stupid, etc. He's come a very long way, and now goes and does his own tinkering. If I just let him be, he says he wouldn't have grown like he has.

Sometimes people need guidance, and that's all I strive to provide. What he does after the guidance is 100% people are people.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

People on the opposite side of that tolerance spectrum look at us avid ad avoiders like we put in too much effort to do that, so I see it as two sides of the same coin. I started blocking/avoiding ads due to the nuisance, long before privacy and security became even more prevalent attack vectors through advertising. That was just a benefit to the time saved by blocking ads, but not it's a primary use case.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You could've been a bit more chill about it, if you gave him such a "withering look" that he lost interest in showing you something he was excited about and said never mind, then the issue here isn't that he didn't plug in his phone, it's that you were unnecessarily and unpleasantly anal about it and your friend just didn't want to deal with your fixation.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Please do not assume a whole entire 6 years of friendship by just this one comment.

I did say it's okay, and that we can watch it on my desktop, which we then did, and even though DBZ isn't a favorite of mine, we both got excited. His excitement from DBZ, and mine from his excitement.

He knows how I am, how many times I've mentioned how much I fucking hate ads. You, on the other hand, know nothing about me.

Have a good rest of your day.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

A couple of ads isn't the end of the world for most people. Whilst I understand that they are undersirable, I also want the creators I enjoy to be able to get paid.

Some of the creators I enjoy are quite niche and they put their time, effort and money in to making the content. I don't think a couple of ads is too much to ask to help pay them back.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

This sounds like a rhetorical question.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago

Fine, I’m hiding the ads on mobile.

…and desktop.

…and downloading the videos I watch more than once.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

On the ads I'm not seeing lol

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

So is revanced. I haven't been able to skip an ad in years... 🤭

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Grayjay is such a good app to watch not only adfree YouTube, but also twitch, rumble, Odysee, etc. I don't understand how this app isn't the standard.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The second it becomes the standard is the second google looks for ways of nerfing it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Grayjay is ran locally, so they cant block the datacenter traffic like they did with invidious, but even if they managed to do something I'd probably still use grayjay, since I can follow the same creators on all platforms with it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

They can target the code though. They'll inspect the code, find ways to break it, and then kill it that way.

The sooner we can get creators off of YouTube the better.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Is Grayjay open source? I can't find it on f-droid.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

No. It's got a "source available" license allowing only non-commercial use, and revokes the license for anyone who tries to sue them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's odd, I'm surprised Rossman didn't upload it to that app store. Well, in the meantime you can get it directly from https://grayjay.app/. Should also be the first result in google, if you want to search yourself instead of trusting a randomly provided link.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

It is in FUTO's F-Droid repo that you can add.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

IDK Iwas using NewPipexSponsorBlock, now Tubular since before Grayjay existed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sadly, I see this working quite well. Does Google get paid per how long the ad is shown? Guessing they get paid more for an ad that plays all the way without being skipped.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Iirc the skipped ads don't generate any revenue

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

So we suffer and they don't even make money... Hmmm

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That’s actually interesting if true… considering they still have to stream us video, Pay the bandwidth and all but don’t generate any revenue. Makes me almost want to Let the whole ad play but skip it at then last second so it only costs them money.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

No it's not, it hides the skip countdown, once skipping is an option, the button is there. The scrubber shows the length of the unskippable portion of the ad instead of the length of the full ad, so it's a different kind of deception, but the button is still there when it's usable.

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