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    [–] [email protected] 139 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Once you try Vim you will never use another text editor. Or any other program for that matter because you won't be able to exit.

    [–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I also had that experience with emacs, which has a built in help system. I couldn't find a topic on 'exit' or 'quit' and refused to just search online.

    Took me half an hour.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    and refused to just search online

    Unless you were f*cked by your ISP as I am right now, that's having some balls. Or being masochist. But nothing in between

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    [–] [email protected] 69 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    If I wanted to hear about what's good about Vim, should I:

    a) ask what's good about vim

    -OR-

    b) assert blindly that there is nothing good about vim so fanboys will come crawling out of the walls tripping over each other to tell me how I'm wrong?

    [–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Doesn't matter we will tell you either way.

    • Instead of simply shortcuts, vim uses "chords". Every new shortcut I learn can be combined intuitively* with all the other shortcuts I know.
    • Because of this there's no faster way to edit files than Vim in the hands of an experienced user.
    • this let's me spend almost no time editing code, freeing up the rest of my time for swearing at piss poor documentation.

    * I use "intuitively" here in a way that not merely stretches, but outright abuses the definition of the word.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Thank you for telling me all this neat stuff! :D

    I think I get what you are intending to imply by the word "intuitively"; it's that it eventually becomes as reflexive and fluid as touch-typing itself.

    Gosh you make it sound almost like you play Vim like an instrument more than use it...!

    Honestly that sounds cool ^_^

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    [–] babybus 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You shouldn't talk about vim at all! Just write that vscode is the most flexible code editor.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Don’t use Microsoft’s version. Use Vscodium! :)

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    tl;dr: Run vimtutor, learn vim, enjoy life

    It's extremely powerful, for mostly the same reason that it's incomprehensible to newbies. It's focused not on directly inputting characters from your keyboard, but on issuing commands to the editor on how to modify the text.

    These commands are simple but combine to let you do exactly what you want with just a few keypresses.

    For example:

    w is a movement command that moves one word forward.

    You can put a number in front of any command to repeat it that many times, so 3w moves three words forward.

    d is the delete command. You combine it with a movement command that tells it what to delete. So dw deletes one word and d3w deletes the next three words.

    f is the find movement command. You press it and then a character to move to the first instance of that character. So f. will move to the end of the current sentence, where the period is.

    Now, knowing only this, if you wanted to delete the next two sentences, you could do that by pressing d2f.

    Hopefully I gave a taste of how incredibly powerful, flexible, yet simple this system is. You only need to know a handful of commands to use vim more effectively than you ever could most other editors. And there are enough clever features that any time you think "I wish there was a better way to do this" there most certainly is (as well as a nice description of how).

    It also comes with a guide to help you get over the initial learning curve, run vimtutor in a console near you to get started on the path to ~~salvation~~ efficient editing.

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    [–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    nano just works for me man

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Getting used to vim has made nano unusable for me. The muscle memory is too strong. That and all of the regex and plugin features (ex. LSP) are just too useful.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

    I had the same experience. Nano is great if you’re used to notepad or a generic, limited text editor.

    Once you learn a terminal editor like eMacs or vim, why go back? So much less hand motion going to mouse, arrows, and back.

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    [–] cccc0 37 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Vim is a puzzle based text editor

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Exactly, it is lovely. Editing text with it is actually enjoyable.

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    [–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    alias vim=nvim
    alias vi=nvim
    alias nano=nvim
    alias emacs=nvim
    alias code=nvim

    export EDITOR=nvim
    export VISUAL=nvim
    export PAGER=nvim

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    [–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (6 children)
    [–] Jumuta 12 points 2 months ago

    vanilla helix is so nice, the keybindings make so much more sense and it feels really comfortable

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    [–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    I do everything with cat, sed and awk.

    Fuck your TUIs.

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    [–] sunoc 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)
    [–] sunoc 12 points 2 months ago

    Nooo not the pinky ! :(

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (4 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    Anytime I open Vim I ask the same question.

    "how the fuck do I use you?"

    then go back to nano

    repeat.

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    NANO GANG RISE

    for everything else, there's sublime.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I tend to work on customer systems where I'm not allowed to install anything. I've yet to encounter one that doesn't have vi installed, but I've seen a few without nano.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    vi is part of the POSIX standard, so it'll be available in some form on almost anything UNIX-flavoured

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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Genuinely took most of my notes in college on vim, when you get good it’s just faster.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm sure someone already made a graph plotting the hours wasted learning vs the seconds gained not moving your mouse.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

    I've no choice coz I haven't been able to quit for last 7 years.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Is the whole point of this community to repost tired old memes or are ya'll just painfully uncreative?

    :q!

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    The only Dad advice you nerds need:

    mcedit from the Midnight Commander (mc) tool is the superior text editor.

    I don't even run arch, btw.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    How did these people have "text editor wars" and yet failed to deliver a text editor half as good as microsoft's edit.com ?

    I'm sorry nano, you're think you're hot ?

    But you put search on CTRL+W !!!

    Do you know how stupid that is ?

    Just go and try that in your browser ...

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I'll stick with my trusty Emacs (and Zile)

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I'm gonna laugh my ass off if someone finds out there was some obscure Emacs fork or clone designed to run Clojure or something, and it's named Again

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

    May I introduce you to our Savior Helix?

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    In the meantime I'm happy with Kate.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

    Aw, I'm sure she's happy with you too . ❤️

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    What about notepad++ under wine?

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