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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are there any vegan communities on the internet which actually lift up veganism instead of seeking confrontation?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

You're cherry-picking friend. This server has lots of tasty recipes, food photos, gardening tips and interesting articles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

No social justice movement has ever been successful by appealing to the sensibilities of the oppressor, I fully support confronting animal abusers to change their behaviour, it worked on me and it worked on the 8 people I've directly helped go vegan, I'm 4y vegan btw

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not vegan or vegetarian but why the fuck is it that whenever I come across a post like this, all the comments are people from other instances whining? If you don't like the movement then block and move on.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most people understand that killing for culinary pleasure is extremely fucked up. It's a self evident conclusion.

In our age using animal products is done because it is either pleasurable or convient. It takes active effort to deny the sheer horror of the reality of that. Anything that threatens to undermine the denial is thus hostile, and so needs to be attacked.

you know this, it's why you're here attempting to salve your conscience with sympathy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

killing for culinary pleasure is extremely fucked up

i’d argue that that’s simplistic

people all have a line; vegans included… we kill yeast to make bread, and people are fine with that. there’s a line between yeast and humans, and we all draw it somewhere… which is to say nothing about the difference between vegetarian and vegan

having a conversation about morals is fine; passing judgement on someone for their alternative views on where the line is is what most people don’t like

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

my mistake, wiping down a surface with 70% ethanol is equivalent to strangling a puppy. Barkon tomorrow morning it is!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i never said they were equivalent. i said there was a line; to say that they’re equivalent is disingenuous and to say that killing a chicken is the same as killing a human is equally so - not advocating either way, but they are different things

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Both are sentient beings who feel pain and we must prevent that from occurring.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm gonna eat a dolphin and you can't criticise me <3

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm hungry for an orca!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeast is a single celled fungus and not an animal. The line is at animals.

It is absolutely ok to pass judgement on people for doing something cruel, torturous, environmentally damaging and unnecessary.

I pass judgement on Israel for carrying out a terrorist attack.

Get the out of here with this no one can pass judgement and what about the plants nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

swatting a mosquito then? the argument remains valid

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not really, you aren't systematically torturing mosquitos when swatting them to protect yourself. Vegans are against large scale insect control.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You have the right to defend yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I am against that yes, there are more humane ways to protect yourself from insects including mosquito repellant and I think theres like a super high pitched noise they don't like

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If the line is at animals we commit genocide of small multicellular animals in order to get clean water

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

You are being purposefully fucking obtuse and ridiculous to make a shitty point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

People don't look at the community, browse all, and find the post. It's how I'm here.

Anyway, I've been cooking with quinoa more. Anyone got some good recipes?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

"I'm in this picture and I don't like it."