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10-year-old Fatima Jaafar Abdullah was killed in pager explosions in Lebanon.

Israel murders another kid again.

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[–] [email protected] 174 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If anyone else did this, it would be universally recognized as a heinous act of state-sponsered terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago

Right? Imagine if Iran did this to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 day ago (40 children)

If iPhones had explosives planted in them straight out of the factory and would've went off in New York all at the same time, injuring thousands and endangering people around them, the 24/7 news cycle would've already called for total annihilation and what not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Oh man, the bill to go to war with China would have been ratified in milliseconds.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Israel continues doing bad things. Not much of a shock.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still needs to be called out each time it happens.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Frustrating to do another long-form argument of "actually, when you distribute a bunch of explosives and set them off in crowded areas, you're not fighting terrorism but doing terrorism"

For some reason people struggle to believe flinging hand grenades into a crowd is bad public policy when a US ally does it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I wonder about the technical part of this.

Was it timer based?

Was it based upon which number sent a message?

A lot of the ideas I have would require a huge technical operation, instead of the "just added explosives" angle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (6 children)

There are videos capturing lots of explosions going off simulataneously. Since pagers already can recieve messages and these devices were deeply infiltrated, they likely added a special trigger message to set them off. THis could also allow other scenarios, like only setting off one (for whatever reason).

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 day ago (36 children)

I get going after your ‘enemy,’ but this is even worse than firing randomly into a crowd of Palestinians. They pushed a button not knowing who would die. This is low, even for them.

I can’t even think of a devil’s advocate argument for this.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (47 children)

I believe the devil's advocate argument would be that, based on Hezbollah's internal communications, the Mossad intercepted a shipment of pagers which were being purchased to replace their (potentially compromised) mobile phones, knowing that these were - in theory - being distributed exclusively to Hezbollah operatives. That would make it the most precise military strike of all time.

Everyone who launches a rocket is accepting the possibility of "collateral damage", but this is surely the most surgical of surgical strikes in history. And yet, yes, they must have accepted the risk of bystander casualties, which just serves to highlight how awful that logic is. It's definitely not worse than randomly firing into a crowd, though.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I feel like people are missing one of the more heinous aspects of this, which is that it injured thousands of people and only managed to kill ~10 of their targets. The outcome of this attack is going to be general terror and potentially hundreds of life altering injuries but very little military advantage.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (17 children)

That would make it the most precise military strike of all time.

Pretty sure that honor still goes to the R9X Slap Chop. The pager explosions, on the other hand, injured thousands.

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