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[–] [email protected] 122 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Nope.

Trump fans don't care.
Harris fans saw confirmation.
Disinterested voters didn't watch.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 months ago (3 children)

...and a news media that desperately needs a horse race for clicks will continue to hold Harris to a higher standard than the orange Mr. Magoo.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A convicted rapist literally claimed that you’re allowed to murder babies - then we put them side by side and double check if Harris said something that was slightly exaggerated. What’s so weird about it?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

Ajnt Ornj: "~~non white~~ 'illegal immigrants' are literally coming to eat your pets and the democrats want to let them"

Media fact checker: "this may not be entirely true, as no evidence has been produced to support the claims, however we found a Twitter post that... "

Harris: "those polling numbers increased by 18%"

Media fact checker: "This is blatantly false. The number actually increased by 17.86%"

Idiots online: BOTH SIDES LIE THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

Trump was barely coherent throughout, but you'll see the media clean up his word salad as 'Trump vigorously defended his economic policies and the handling of the pandemic.'

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

Clips of this will spread through media and word of mouth, though. People who did watch it can tell their friends stories about it. That's why it's good that she did well. It builds cultural momentum.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 months ago (80 children)

People not voting for Harris because of Gaza need to avoid watching the debate, otherwise they’ll change their minds. No matter how bad things are, they can get worse.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Fox News poll, right after the debate.

Boomertown.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fox is conservative STATE propaganda. No different to Russian or North Korean state propaganda. Regardless of the blatant bias, there is literally nothing stopping them from manufacturing this "poll" out of thin air.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Fox isn’t state media. I dislike the mendacious fuckers as much as the next guy but let’s try and stick to facts.

The US has very few state media organizations. Voice of America is one. Radio Free Europe is another.

Fox is an independent organization, if they were state media the Biden admin would have control of their news. That obviously isn’t the case.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

I know this is about Fox, but I want to continue to share that neither is NPR. It is an independent nonprofit that operates independently of the government and gets less than 1% of it's operaiting budget from federal sources.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Good news is 8% managed to get their head out of their ass. Who is answering that poll besides hardcore conservatives?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago

Russian Bots

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

The comment about Haitian immigrants eating cats definitely clenched it for me.

My ass cheeks that is. As I was dying laughing.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago

It will change a lot.

This will dramatically increase the number of Republicans who will tell everyone they're not voting for him, and then vote for him.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (6 children)

A few Republicans I know said they were going to vote libertarian or just not vote after watching the debate so she did pretty fucking well.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Despite how much they go on about how nuanced and special their views are, libertarians will find a way to vote GOP like they always do.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure they said that.

I like to lie about things I'm ashamed of too.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"She makes some good points. I might vote for her if she wasn't a Democrat" - Republicans

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Some Republican politicians will switch perhaps.

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