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I'm not sure it's the "best" way, but it's a solid alternative, and receives rapid updates when YouTube moves to break things.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/15571129

I'm using this all the time myself. There is no login to YouTube required and it supports adding subscriptions and doing everything important you can do on YouTube.

And the best part is no ads whatsoever.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

SmartTube is pretty great for android TV.

[–] Eeyore_Syndrome 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yaaa.

And I use Enhancer for YouTube™ on desktop Firefox on my Bazzite PC.

And Tubular on my Android phone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Switched to PipePipe because Tubular is not updated as quickly as Tubular, the dev said it's not on the top of their list. Also PipePipe has some more features such as playing the video faster while you leaveea finger on the screen.

[–] weirdo_from_space 2 points 2 months ago

I prefer PipePipe as well, it's great It gets frequently updated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

For people who are okay with using YT's official frontend, I couldn't recommend Enhancer for Youtube™ more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's annoying though that you can't save videos to lists or subscribe to channels without logging in to youtube account.

[–] Bronzie 1 points 2 months ago

Just make a dummy account for only that if you don’t want to mix yours into YT

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Newpipe or Clipious also work on AndroidTV

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I use NewPipe on regular Android but read somewhere it wasn't recommended to be used on Android TV because it wasn't designed for it. If you vouch for it working fine then maybe I'll try it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's using the YouTube API, so that makes sense. The developer likely wants to keep the app focused and reduce the amount of feature creep, hence reusing YouTube's standard subscription and list systems rather than building their own. That's also what the majority of users expect - if someone subscribes to a YouTube channel on one device, they'd expect to be subscribed to it on all devices.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Other benefits:

  • Multiple subscription profiles, so you can organize your subscribed channels into groups. "I want to watch stuff about cars and motorcycles - I choose 'Motoring.'"
  • SponsorBlock
  • No stupid recommendations to drag you into despair, hate watching, and misinformation.
  • Ability to never show shorts.

Downside:

  • Max 1080
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Seeing how I invested in an 144Hz monitor instead of a Hi-Res one, I see no issues here!

Will check it out!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You can add mpv to FreeTube as an external player. With yt-dlp, it supports playing YouTube videos directly and in any quality. It also has a plugin for SponsorBlock integration.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I use MPV as a external player and it's great because you can highly customize the way you watch videos. I like equalize the sound and through a MPV script I save the video from cache with a keystroke if I liked it. Sadly watching with subtitles stopped working some weeks ago.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There is also an Android fork which works amazingly well.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

I'm certainly concerned that now that this software has been covered in PopSci; that it will certainly suffer a needless onslaught of DMCA and other lawsuit-related shenanigans. >_>

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Out of curiosity, what's is better about it than YouTube?

Vanilla YouTube is obvious, but I've got ublock origin , sponsor block and that thing that renames stuff to non click bait.

It all just works and I don't get adds and I keep all my sub's and still get useful suggestions.

On android i just use revanced.

So, what's the pull of downloading a 3rd party for Linux / PC?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

For me it's not just about ads, it's also about surveillance. With FreeTube you can have subscriptions without needing a linked YouTube account, and all the subscription/watch history data is stored locally. So, it's a good opt-out of Google/YouTube surveillance. And you can import/export subscriptions if you need to transfer to another device. I happen to use FreeTube for this because it is frequently updated and I like the setup, but other options exist - I'm not really promoting this option over other options, just raising some awareness about it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've tried a few different front ends for fun in the past and they're fun to tinker with, I'll admit. I don't think I used freetube.

Also it was some months ago, but the biggest issue I found was that I couldn't sync watch lists. I could add subs and things but if I watched something on my phone, whatever front-end on my computer would tell me I still hadn't watched that video and recommend it.

Is there a way around this? Because, that's a huge deal breaker for me. As an end goal, I want less Google in my life, but there are certain inconveniences I am unwilling to tolerate (however seemingly small lol).

Anyway, I may start tinkering again soon. Thanks for the reply!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think there's currently a way to automatically sync watch history across devices, but I'd love to be wrong about that tbh, because it would be handy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Syncthing is your friend. Freetube stores playlists, history, settings and subscriptions as .db-files which you can sync between devices. Android version also allows access to these files if enabled in settings.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

@Flatworm7591 @y0kai all from above plus you have a full view of your subscriptions in chronological order and you can organize your subs how you want (per subject for exemple)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that thing that renames stuff to non clickbait

Sounds like something I'd use, what is it called?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sorry, I'd have said the name initially, I've just got one of those brains that doesn't always cooperate when it's needed.

Anyway, it's called "Dearrow" and it's pretty cool. Check it out!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Sweet suggestion, definitely adding this. Sick and tired of click bait titles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Cool, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Grayjay and Freetube are both fine but different.

For some reason, Freetube currently works well, Grayjay needs iOS fallback and barely works.

Grayjay follows the bigger, already implemented idea of combining multiple platforms. This is a great UX and smooth fallback when Youtube blocks again, or permanently.

Accounts can link multiple platforms, so switching is easier.

It also allows commenting, livechat, on the platforms and has on the polycentric protocol, connecting all others.

Also, it has Sponsorblock integration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] I like GrayJay, even tho I find their integration of PeerTube quite lacking.

@[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I also dont understand why Peertube works so badly. It is one of the platforms with the most quality content, but its decentralization really makes it require an app.

sepiasearch.org helps here, to connect all instances and index them

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] Same, PeerTube has so much good and interesting content, this content just doesn't get exposure because of bad discoverability

@[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Freetube does have SponsorBlock and DeArrow integration as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oh cool didnt know that

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can donate to them, can't you?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Thanks for the reminder: Donate link

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Now that's more like it. However for android Android (phone, tablet) I already have NewPipe I'm happy with. Does FreeTube work well on Android TV? I use SmartTube and it's good but it's not perfect.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Grayjay seems to be more stable than NewPipe

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There is no shortage on frontend alternatives for PC… but somehow I have yet to find anything worth mentioning for iOS

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

iOS

I'm sorry but there likely never be a long-term alternative for free software such as this on that platform. Neither you nor the developer has much say on how to use it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Freetube exists for Android also.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I use grayjay but this looks great for finding new stuff to watch and customizability!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I've been using FreeTube for a while and it's great. It allows me to customise my feed to only include content from my subscriptions and filter out any recommendations designed to keep me on the platform for as long as possible.

[–] ganoo 2 points 2 months ago

I like Clipious with Invidious

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is there anything similar that works on iOS and tvOS? That’s where most of my YouTube viewing is done.

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